Rogue as a goth
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ekpyrosis-1 — 17 years ago(August 30, 2008 12:31 PM)
When I started to watch this show, not knowing anything about the X-men I thought Rogue was a woman somewhere in her 40's thanks to her make-up and especially her strands of white hair - I thought she simply turned grey prematurely.
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billa_lime03 — 17 years ago(October 11, 2008 06:11 AM)
Personnally the best way I see Rogue, is as a Goth. She can't be just like Kitty, and happy and lovely and a preppy because of her powers. I think this way to made her like that is the best was to make us understand how she has to deal with it.
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SkullyD — 17 years ago(December 27, 2008 10:31 PM)
Goth Rogue was hot. She was okay in the older series, despite looking like a tramp from a Poison video. She was a horrible stereotype though.
I have always felt that superheroes are mythic archetypes, and that they're are limitless interpretations of their personalities. It's fun for me to see reinventions of familiar characters. Of course some people just want everything to always stay the same. -
Cassandra_Speaker — 17 years ago(January 13, 2009 07:28 PM)
About the "Rogue as a wild girl" thingshe did come off as bit of one in this series at points. She just seemed more restrained than usually portrayed.
As for her being Gothwell in the 80s she had this Punk Rocker look to her so it's not without precedent. -
Mistopurr83 — 17 years ago(January 21, 2009 07:38 PM)
I was fine with Rogue as a gothic in this show b/c I thought it resembled the 616 Rogue during her BOEM days before she took out Ms. Marvel. It seemed as though Evo Rogue and 616 teenage Rogue uglied herself up so people wouldn't come near her.
The thing I hate the most about Anna Paquin's Rogue is the way she does nothing but sulk and whine about her power being a handicap instead of realizing what good it could do. Unlike how all other versions of Rogue come up with ways to mask her depression instead of being a useless complainer 24/7. -
Da Derga — 16 years ago(August 14, 2009 12:09 AM)
When they first introduced her, she was. The white streaks were along the sides like Reed Richards, and she had a very mature (as in middle-aged) face. Each time I pick up a comic book or watch a show or movie with Rogue in it, it seems like she's ten years younger than she was the last time I saw her. It's going to suck for Professor X when he has to change her nappies. In this show, however, it wasn't so bad because she was the same age as the rest of the class, who were all regressed to teenagers.
As for her goth/punk look and isolationist personality, I was always hot for girls like that when I was a teenager. But moreover, I thought it befit her issues. It was almost like a defence mechanism. If you don't want to be touched, make people not want to touch you. -
prettypiosonivy — 16 years ago(April 22, 2009 06:35 PM)
That episode where Rogue seduced the security guard made me absoltly sick the frist time I saw it and it reminds me how much I truly hate her character, I mean all that did was show how much of a filthy,brain dead,whore she can be. She could have come up with a better way of dealing with the guard other then putting him in a coma and show complete disreguard for his fellings, I mean how would she feel if she was in his position, but no she takes the easy way out, caues she is just too stupid to use her small brain to come up with a better plan, and on top of that lets not forget the horrible way she treats Gambit especily in the episode where Cody comes back and Rogue can tough him and all of the sudden she becomes a complete bitch to everyone especily Gambit then at the end of the episode when Cody leaves her Gambit lets her cry on his shoulder as if the way she acted before didn't mater, he should have at least gotten an apology but no nothing , and it serves the bitch right for horrible way she treats men. She deserves the most horrific kind of torture imaginable.
In animated world of DC there are female characters that find much kinder and mauture ways to get what they want, for example in the begining of an episode of Superman:tas (Where There's Smoke)a villainess by the name of Volcana talks a guard into leting her on a yacht and he dose then she gives him a nice little kiss on the cheek and thats all, she didn't have to knock him out or nothing, that just comes to show you that in the DC world even villains find better ways of getting what they want with out anyone getting hurt. -
DarthBill — 16 years ago(July 24, 2009 07:42 PM)
The 90s Rogue will always be my favorite take on Rogue, though Goth Rogue looked better than the Rogue who currently appears on "Wolverine & The X-Men" (where she looks like an unsuccessful attempt at creating an animated Anna Pacquin - seriously, were there really no better candidates for Rogue circa 2000?).
To me, Rogue's situation mirrored that of Ben Grimm/The Thing, the primary differences being that Ben got turned into a giant orange rock man and Rogue can't touch people bare handed (although Ben still has to be careful how he handles people/objects) and the fact that Ben got to be a celebrity while Rogue and her fellow mutants get hunted like fugitives. Rogue in her 90s incarnation basically tried to make the best of a bad situation, using Southern belle sass and humor to cope with her fairly crappy/miserable existence, just as Ben 'The Thing' Grimm uses humor to help him get through the day and cope with being a ridiculous looking monstrosity. -
Bucketsofguts — 16 years ago(August 13, 2009 10:17 PM)
Agreed, I love the way 90's Rogue coped with her mutation. Rogue without her sass? She may as well be a different character.
My problem with Evo Rogue is the fact that she is portrayed as a Goth. It's a pretty unoriginal and crude stereotype for teenagers who deal with extra difficulties during adolescence. You think the creators could have been a little more original -
fireflyer40 — 13 years ago(July 12, 2012 10:50 AM)
I concur wholeheartedly. This is far and away my favourite rendition of Rogue EVAH. The creators really got you sympathising with her and what she was going through, and as has been noted by others, her behaviour seems quite natural for the age she's supposed to be here. Also I gotta give kudos to Meghan Black for making Rogue's pathos sound that much more realistic.
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wantutosigh — 14 years ago(June 26, 2011 12:54 PM)
Don't get too hung up on "Southern Belle." That's just a simple way to describe her because she's from the deep south. She's sexy, sassy, and is an emotionally strong(albeit messed up) woman. "Southern Belle" is just thrown in there for a label. I like her like that. Making her a "goth" teen was a bit lame to me.
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sangos_counterpart — 12 years ago(May 29, 2013 02:31 AM)
Originally, I hated the concept of goth teen Rogue. More than anything, I think it was that she just had a really bad character design. Why the grey skin? I get that she was supposed to be really pale but grey skin? I also don't get why she had a cleft chin. I was always confused by Rogue's character design because, other than her, the other characters were drawn really well! Scott and Jean looked great. Storm, too.
But now, rewatching the series, I have to say that I appreciate the effort the writers put into really re-imagining Rogue. She is by far the most different from her comic incarnation and it's really interesting. Evolution Rogue is still feisty, but in a different way from classic Rogue. I appreciated that her being goth didn't make her into an annoying, sulky character. Instead, she was a formidable fighter with a lot of sass and anger. Of course, for me, my favorite Rogue will always be the 80s/90s version of her.
I know that some people argue that she was a hypersexual character with cheesy lines and an over-the-top, annoying-to-read accent, but I still love that version of her. She was just so fun! And I'm a big fan of Rogue with Ms. Marvel powers. I loved that she was a woman who could get into fist fights. Most other X-men women have defensive, magical, or telepathic powers. I liked that she was the gung-ho, dive into battle type. And the Ms. Marvel storyline has always been a huge aspect of Rogue's personal character development. I think it was a really interesting story, and it was good impetus for her to join the X-Men.
Although I've now come to terms with goth Rogue, I have to say that I would have really loved it if they had tried to be a little more faithful to the original character. I'm not trying to sound like a snob. I just mean that reallly old school Rogue
was
a teenager. Although she was definitely angsty about her powers, she also was really playful about it. I liked when she was the unpredictable villain who went around kissing people. Some people have told me they thought she was slutty for doing that, but it's also sort of sad when you think about it. That the early Rogue had accepted she couldn't be intimate without hurting someone, so she used kissing as a weapon against her enemies.
If they had drawn out Rogue's time with the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, that would have been cool. See Rogue's more dangerous side. I think she switched over too quickly, but then again, the writers didn't know how many seasons the show would run.
On a side note, the only other thing that really bugged me about the show was Kitty's ditzy voice and personality. The girl was supposed to be a genius!
Why would a banana grab another banana? Those are the kind of questions I don't want to answer. -
samhmd-7489 — 10 years ago(June 07, 2015 09:36 AM)
Kitty was still pretty smart in this show, that doesn't mean she can't have some ditzy surface qualities at the same time.
I liked how they had Nightcrawler as his fun-loving swashbuckler persona instead of the depressing Religious case he was in the movies. -
fireflyer40 — 10 years ago(October 30, 2015 01:19 AM)
I just ran across this absolutely jaw-dropping Evo Rogue cosplay on DeviantArt:
http://ryoko-demon.deviantart.com/art/City-girl-398479206
Evidently some people are perfectly happy with this version of Rogue!!