So season 2's last shot is with Matt revealing his secret identity to Karen. The show ends before we can see Karen react
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(November 30, 2016 11:07 PM)
So season 2's last shot is with Matt revealing his secret identity to Karen. The show ends before we can see Karen react to the discovery. But how would she react? Part of me posits that Karen will probably approve of Matt being Daredevil, maybe even encourage him, which will be a major point going into
The Defenders
and
Daredevil
season 3.
My evidence:- Unlike Foggy, Karen has personally seen Matt in action as Daredevil.
Foggy's seen Matt in his uniform, but both times it was after he'd been injured in a fight (after his fight with Nobu and Fisk in season 1, after being attacked by the Punisher in season 2). Because Foggy's never actually seen Matt fighting (he was there for the fight with the Hand but he was at street level and could only hear it), his only idea of what Matt does as Daredevil is in the form of soundbites on the evening news. And he has no connection to anything in the other half of Matt's life. He doesn't see Matt out there getting beaten up and chasing down associates of Wilson Fisk, the Kitchen Irishmen, Hand ninjas, or Dogs of Hell bikers. He only knows that Matt is beating up bad guys, which is what the NYPD is paid to do. Foggy also may have a hard time taking Matt's word as gospel after having found that his best friend of five years had been keeping such a big secret from him.
But with Karen, it's the complete opposite. For her, Matt's actions as Daredevil aren't something that shows up in the trending column on her Facebook page. For her, they're real. She's actually seen him in action. She saw him subdue Wilson Fisk's assassin Rance in season 1, and knows that he saved her life. She also personally saw Matt engaging the Hand ninjas who were holding her and the others captive, the same ninjas who were about to amputate Turk's foot. - Matt disclosing his identity to Karen had been foreshadowed
In "Dogs to a Gunfight", when Karen visits Matt at his apartment after the hospital shooting. First, she admits to him she is barely holding it together and doesn't like being used for target practice. In the same conversation, there's this exchange:
Karen Page:
Sometimes I worry about you a little too much.
Matt Murdock:
I appreciate it. There's no need to worry.
Karen Page:
Yeah, you know that doesn't help, right? You denying that there's anything wrong?
Matt Murdock:
Karen-
Karen Page:
No, how many times can I hear that you "fell down the stairs" or you "walked into a door"?
Matt Murdock:
Well, you know I'm blind.
Karen Page:
And you know that I'm not an idiot. [beat] Okay, um, let's say this:
when or if you ever feel like you can tell me what's going on with you, I promise that I'm here.
Is that a deal?
Matt Murdock:
That is a deal.
"When or if you feel like you can tell me what's going on with you, I promise that I'm here." Matt probably decided, "You're saying you'll listen to me when I decide to reveal my secret identity to you." - Of Matt's three love interests, she's the one most like him personalitywise
In season 2, there were three potential love interests for Matt: Claire, Karen, and Elektra. Elektra was killed, and when she comes back from the dead in
The Defenders
, she will most likely come back as an enemy and leader of the Hand since Nobu's gone. Even when she was just a normal person, she was no good for Matt, and the only reason he was chasing after her and teaming up with her, was because she was like him: a vigilante that's equally skilled, who also got training from Stick. She hurt him and lied to him many times, but because Matt is clearly a bit of a masochist, he was willing to accept her regardless, and tried to reach for the good in her and get her to be good, even though things would just fundamentally never work out between them (if you've ever been with a crazy girl, you would understand the relationship they had, where Matt knows that Elektra is dangerous and not good for him, and that she hurts him, but that he's willing to put up with it because he is sort of trapped by his love for her).
Matt and Elektra's relationship is similar to how Frank Castle described his wife to Karen at the diner, and how badly she would hurt him. She made him feel something, even if that feeling was emotional pain. And there is something about someone who can make you extremely happy, or hurt you when they choose to, that is emotionally intense. It's so intense in comparison to having a nice, bland relationship with someone predictable, that you become addicted to it.
Now let's consider Claire. Matt already had something with Claire. She is definitely useful and very strong. Matt needs someone like her in his life. But Claire was turned off by Matt's blood knight tendencies, and was routinely frustrated by him. They were not emotionally compatible, and that showed through loud and clear. They care about each other, but they could never work, and their romantic interest in one another faded, with Claire eventually forming a relationship with Luke Cage, though there is still clear
- Unlike Foggy, Karen has personally seen Matt in action as Daredevil.
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lfpinto — 9 years ago(December 04, 2016 05:50 AM)
dmcreif , About Karen one thing leaves me in doubt ; The standard of requirement, Moral, ethical,etc. she has for Matt/daredevil, does not have for Frank. Seem to suggest that would become romantically involved, faster with Frank(i hope not) than with Matt,and it does not make sense to me, would not be consistent, moreover i think it weakens the character of Karen.It's the doubt I have about Karen. I sincerely hope that the writers do not follow the path of romantically joining Karen and Frank.
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AngryNegroMan — 9 years ago(December 24, 2016 07:46 AM)
She looks at the mask. She thinks, "That's the mask of Daredevil! Why are you-", and then her eyes widen and mouth drops open in shock as she looks up at Matt. From Karen's perspective, it's like she's looking at Matt with a fresh new pair of eyes. And then he bluntly says, "I'm Daredevil." You can see the cylinders firing in Karen's brain as she begins to process everything that she's ever seen him do. She's thinking, "YOU saved me from Rance when I was retrieving the Union Allied pension file from my apartment, YOU rescued me and a couple dozen others from an army of ninjas, you single-handedly took down Wilson Fisk. My god, you really DO care about me after all."
OR IT COULD BE she was thinking, "I need new underwear I just beep myself