I wasn't expecting anything except a dark-themed detective series. I'm really enjoying Luke Cage, but didn't know until
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haxemon — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 09:05 AM)
This is certainly a very different series and very polarizing. Someone expecting "more Daredevil" type stuff or who really is into the more traditional vigilante type of show is likely at a disadvantage.
Someone who likes noir or psychological dramas or who is eager for a new take on the "get powers, become a hero" trope is more likely to like this series.
I know you're just stating your opinion and it's valid of course - and others have a similar take. But for me, I liked the way this show was very different from other shows in the genre. I watch nearly everything even loosely "comic book" and I'm getting a bit tired of the formula where someone gets powers, practices on a roof top, sews a costume and then fights crime like a boy scout.
Seeing Jessica first reject/hide her powers and then later on come to fear her own powers was a great new take. And honestly, as much as people day dream of getting bit by a radioactive spider and saving the world, if a teenage kid woke up to find their family dead and that they now have powers they can't explain, I think they would freak out much like Jessica did. Then add to that someone later in life abusing that person and their powers to the point of having them kill an innocent person - wow man.
Anyway, to each their own.
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 02:32 PM)
The way I see it, I think some of those put off by
Jessica Jones
aren't put off by her being a woman, but the genre of the show. The Netflix protagonists are more like antiheroes in traditional detective-film noir works (
Luke Cage
is the MCU version of The Wire,
Jessica Jones
is a psychological thriller with horror elements, and
Daredevil
is a crime drama). And these antiheroes are flawed, not pure-hearted and godlike. And superpowers are more of a liability than a benefit. Matt Murdock gets beaten up to the point of needing medical treatment pretty regularly. Will Simpson's "Reds" make him stronger but also cause him to go insane. Luke Cage has durable skin, but it's a pain in the ass to treat him when something injures him like a shotgun at point-blank range or a Judas bullet. Mind control turns Kilgrave into a 21st century version of Gyp Rosetti. On and on. -
dmcreif — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 08:00 AM)
Then add to that someone later in life abusing that person and their powers to the point of having them kill an innocent person - wow man.
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haxemon — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 08:12 AM)
Fair enough. Though I think the impact on Jessica is the same. Unless Jessica at some point discovers Reva's involvement (which is entirely possible). At that point it may help a bit in her dealing with it.
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 09:12 AM)
Fair enough. Though I think the impact on Jessica is the same. Unless Jessica at some point discovers Reva's involvement (which is entirely possible). At that point it may help a bit in her dealing with it.
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haxemon — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 09:34 AM)
Yup.
If IGH is mentioned in any way at all during Iron Fist then that should seal it. I sure hope it's not "the source" of his (or Daredevil's) powers though.
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KthulhuX — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 03:36 AM)
Marvel definitely doesn't have the rights to X-23 or Psylocke. And one of the reasons I liked the idea of a Jessica Jones series so much was that she was such an obscure character. She brought less baggage to the table than characters that a lot of people know a bit about. And I disagree that X-23, Psylocke, or Spider-Woman are any more interesting than Jessica. Not to take anything away from those characters, who are all interesting in their own rights, but Jessica allows the writers to explore a dimension that has very rarely been touched uponthe "failed" hero and her redemption.
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derrick-beaumont — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 05:17 AM)
And one of the reasons I liked the idea of a Jessica Jones series so much was that she was such an obscure character.
She brought less baggage to the table than characters that a lot of people know a bit about.
Sorry I think your point is wrong here. You would have to rearrange "baggage" with a word like "Attachments" or "Priorities". As she has plenty of mental trauma which is highlighted and those kinds of issues are considered "baggage," same as things like having children or a troublesome ex can be. -
haxemon — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 06:44 AM)
Sigh. He means a long history in the comics or in "common knowledge" about the character among non-comic fans. Like how many people know Daredevil is a blind vigilante or that Hulk is angry etc.
He (or she) is not saying the character doesn't have baggage in story - just that the fictional character's history is less complex than some of the comic characters that have been around since the 50s or 70s even.
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haxemon — 9 years ago(November 08, 2016 02:10 PM)
FWIW I can't recall why I had that sigh in there. I can't imagine it was directed at you based on re-reading the thread.
Apologies if it came off that way.
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skoobydoo6789 — 9 years ago(December 02, 2016 01:29 PM)
I never finished the show myself. Started watching when it came out and just stopped. The show and characters didn't really do for me. I thought Kilgrave was great villain.
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la di da — 9 years ago(December 06, 2016 01:22 PM)
Personally i think jj told the story better than dd and lc.
I do think there are flaws.
Jj living with kilgrave.
They should have explored kilgrave being a hero more instead of the lesbian lawyer interlude or kilgrave working more with carrie an moss.
Less of the wonder twins and the addict neighbor.
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