Spider-Man won't be punching people in Homecoming. No, seriously.
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Phill24 — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 04:33 AM)
The animated series saw Spiderman throw only 1 punch in the entire show and yet it is known as the best Spiderman cartoon ever.
It was the best Spider-Man show ever. And then The Spectacular Spide-Man came along and blew it out of the water -
KCJ506 — 9 years ago(November 15, 2016 12:16 PM)
I like both Spider-man TAS and Spectacular. I think they both excel in different areas. Spectacular pretty much paid the most tribute to the original Lee/Ditko comics. It was also the first(and so far only time) that Gwen Stacy was a main character and unlike other shows each character that appeared that had a name was from the comics. Even pretty obscure characters were used. Not a single one was made up. I think it do a better job with some characters better than TAS did. Doc Ock in particular.
If there's one show that really didn't have much substance, it's Ultimate Spider-man.
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Old_Man_From_Scene_24 — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 11:55 AM)
It doesn't matter how good it was. It matters about whether or not the movie lives up to its rating. Giving it something unneeded is going to antagonise older viewers and potentially cut box office revenue through stopping children from seeing it. It's a mistake because the animated series is for children and cannot hold the same themes a PG-13 movie potentially could. This isn't a difficult concept to understand.
Also, your comment on quality, like mine, is wholly subjective.
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shadowrun_2 — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 10:05 PM)
What is happening to this movie? Does Marvel want it to fail? Everything they're doing with it is wrong.
A lot of DC fan nerds accuse Marvel of being too kiddy and this really seems a step in that direction after what I just read. -
Old_Man_From_Scene_24 — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 01:35 PM)
So, according to you, older people are going to shield children away from seeing the movie just because Spiderman doesn't throw a single punch?
I have absolutely no idea where you're getting this false idea from, because it certainly isn't something that I've ever said.
Violence is an important subset of rating. I've seen or heard nothing that causes this film to deserve above PG, given that it won't have swearing or sex as a Marvel-friendly picture, and this fact has extrapolated that belief.
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Old_Man_From_Scene_24 — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 01:37 PM)
Allow me to clarify: I don't consider minor obscenities to be truly obscene swearing as they're essentially meaningless. Those include the likes of 'damn', 'hell' and even 'ass', among others. The more obscene words, such as f. c, w and others will all be absent, as they are in all Marvel movies. I'll bet my last penny on it. You may get a bastard somewhere in there, but I sincerely doubt even that much in an MCU PG-13.
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Old_Man_From_Scene_24 — 9 years ago(November 14, 2016 02:49 PM)
How it is written, execution, tone, pacing, and character development will determine how well it does.
Obviously. The issue is that tone and writing are being stifled by such a concept.
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Old_Man_From_Scene_24 — 9 years ago(November 20, 2016 05:19 PM)
Tone is affected by character actions, which are the result of writing in and of themselves. Simple.
They haven't taken away half of his power, but they have removed a portion of the movie's 'realism', if such a thing can be present in a superhero movie, and most do attempt it to be so these days. Spider-Man is a kid in Homecoming. His combat techniques need to be tried and tested. If he instinctively knows not to punch people out of fear of killing them, it's going to ruin that aspect. Give me a scene or two with good reason for the inaction, and I may consider it acceptable.
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Old_Man_From_Scene_24 — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 04:46 PM)
Now that IS what I said - I want to see these changes that cause him to hold back, and I want it to cost him in a meaningful form of conflict. That's all I ask this movie to do. Well, as well as not be as terrible as the likes of BvS, but let's not veer into THOSE waters. I think we can agree on this point.
I get it perfectly. I want proof that he doesn't get it just because of 'plot reasons'. On another note, comic-book strength probably won't be relevant.
"All these squares make a circle."