Is it really that hard to make a coherent film?
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Marvel/DC
oranui56 — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 09:25 AM)
I get it that it isn't easy making a good movie, it takes a lot of effort and your bound to make mistakes. But seriously? How hard is it to make a movie that makes sense?! The people at Warner Brothers seem to think that this makes their films better, but then when people tell them their movie sucks they bring out extended cuts to make their crappy movies better. It's absolutely rediculous and there's no excuse for it. If they want to make anything good they have to have some sort of coherence. Sure, there are movies like Inception that mess with your mind, but there's actual reason for this based on the kind of story they're trying to tell. BvS and Suicide Squad are not like these kinds of films. Rearranging your scenes in a film and cutting stuff out doesn't make your film smarter, it's just annoying.
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moondawg_32304 — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 10:54 AM)
It was awful Waller was terrible.. She tried so hard to be this mean bitch but it was laughable. Cara can't act. The soundtrack was schizophrenic the scene with Batman and Deadshot was awful.. Waller murders all her subordinates in cold blood and it's a good thing? Flag is ok with her doing so. Batman works with her being a cold blooded killer And absolutely positively incoherent af
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OLD_ACCOUNT_skribb_Mk2 — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 04:33 PM)
Flag isn't ok with her doing so. Watch the extended it is explained what his stance about waller is, basically he pretends to not care because he doesn't want sht from Waller.
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Sythorn83 — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 04:47 PM)
I don't really understand the incoherent complaint. Not liking the film due to not caring about the characters, finding the humor falls flat, etc. Those I can understand. But I felt the film was very coherent. From start to finish, it was about three major characters (Harley, Deadshot, Flag) and how their immediate backstories related to the plot of the Enchantress destroying the city.
Maybe I'm missing something or don't understand the context of people calling the film "incoherent." This is nothing like Batman vs Superman, Spiderman 3, or the Amazing Spiderman 2where fifty billion things were happening and the film couldn't decide what it was about. The film, at least to my mind, had focus from start to finish. Whether or not it was quality is another question entirely, of course. -
FrankDAtank2112 — 9 years ago(November 18, 2016 11:32 AM)
Cause welcome to the generation of sheep the heard up together and complain to just complain. There wasn't anything on this movie that was hard to understand, I mean geez imagine if this generation saw Donnie Darko, I refuse to believe people are that dumb but lately I really think they are this dumb.
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Conan-1982 — 9 years ago(November 18, 2016 12:49 AM)
No it's not hard, it's just that it is not a priority for the studios anymore: the priority is having a bunch scenes that make a cool trailer, and selling a ton of plastic crap merchandise.
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BB-15 — 9 years ago(November 19, 2016 01:15 PM)
There is just a different style coming out of DC compared with Marvel including on their TV series.
Marvel TV shows (first season Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage) take their time with one or two central villains where one story builds up through the season to a main confrontation between hero and bad guy.
DC TV (Arrow, Flash) have episodes with a lot more content often with multiple story lines in the same episode. Characters are brought in and taken out. The editing can be very quick.
DC TV is much busier than more simple Marvel TV.- And this style carried over to Suicide Squad. There is a lot going on similar to DC TV. (These was even a Suicide Squad story in some episodes in Arrow).
I enjoy the faster pace of DC TV and SS.
The critics may not like it but that comes down to personal taste.
The recent DC films are making decent money.
There is obviously an audience for this kind of CB movie.
Imo at least, BB
it is just in my opinion - imo -
- And this style carried over to Suicide Squad. There is a lot going on similar to DC TV. (These was even a Suicide Squad story in some episodes in Arrow).
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BB-15 — 9 years ago(November 19, 2016 05:56 PM)
Yes, Marvel TV is generally better than DC TV. But DC TV shows can often be very good.
It's just that DC has a different style (with more multiple storylines) than Marvel.
SS has that kind of more busy DC style.
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xXenomorphx — 9 years ago(November 21, 2016 05:44 PM)
I find incredible how they managed to mess this up. They have a movie where bad guys are forced to do good, and anybody can die at any moment. There's Batman, Harley Quinn, Joker, Killer Croc, and other very interesting characters to work with. They also have an animated movie that can easily be used as a template towards making a fun and decent film. How they managed to have how the movie turned out to be is a marvel.