Xavier looked into Apocalypse mind and saw the same visions Jean had. Apocalypse later talks to Xavier about what he saw
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O-Face — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 08:58 AM)
Expect those were good retcons. The Phoenix Force's introduction in the comics was terrible and most fans hated it. It came in years later after Jean's death with:
"Jean was in Jamaica Bay the whole time. The Phoenix is actually a cosmic enitity that took her form and replaced her."
And when have I ever bashed Marvel Studios for making changes? I've only complained about them making Hank and Janet too old to be Avengers. Especially, with Janet since she is the second longest running leader of the Avengers and named the team. She was replaced by an obsured MC2 character(Hope) just so Scott Lang can have a love interest.
And I was littte bit bothered about how the second season stole Bulleye's iconic moment and gave it to some character that wasn't even from the comics.
And remove entire elements? Did you not read the original ending of The Dark Phoenix Saga that Chris Claremont before it got axed by editorial at the last minute? The Shi'ar dealt with Jean by shutting off the part of her brain that was responsible for her mutant powers. I made a thread on it. -
charzhino — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 02:04 PM)
A film script which is fully focused on the Dark Phoneix story arc would be something exciting even though not novel. It's also the perfect opportunity to link the franchise to outer space angles. Not sure who would be a villain strong enough to compete with Dark Phoneix however as Apocalypse was easily defeated within seconds.
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samhmd-7489 — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 07:30 PM)
It depends. X-Writers lately have been wanking Phoenix like nuts, but the other Marvel editors have been trying to depower her. The current Marvel Editor in Chief said that Odin is more powerful than Phoenix IIRC.
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bud-47 — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 11:03 AM)
They need to give audiences more time with this new iteration of Jean Grey, who we've literally only spent one film and maybe 15 minutes of screentime with, before rushing once again into The Dark Phoenix saga. Do the filmmakers even understand why that storyline was so popular? I think not. Why should we care about Jean Grey or what happens to her at this point? There's no real emotional connection with this under-developed character.
Singer just wants to get that big firebird on the screen so he can scratch that itch he's had since X2. -
Smurfbate87 — 9 years ago(November 14, 2016 05:11 PM)
HARD pass
This just gives me more reason to stop going to see these X-Men films. They officially lost me as a fan after this film and with the direction that they are going. I wish they'd just reboot the whole damn thing and start from scratch within the Deadpool timeline. -
hafabee — 9 years ago(November 15, 2016 01:31 PM)
I'm not really buying that rumour.
It could be true, but I doubt it, it's far more likely that
X-Men 7
will continue developing the Dark Phoenix story and Jean Grey's troubles like it was in
X-Men Apocalypse
, as a B-story, while the A-story in that movie will be about something else, somethingSinister. -
generationofswine — 9 years ago(November 20, 2016 12:00 PM)
It just needs to die. Apocalypse was a mess for laziness just like Last Stand was a mess for indecisiveness and X-Men Origins was a mess because it felt like one long montage.
They have Deadpool, all the X-titles.
It's time to kill the X-Men. Let them die. If they don't want to sell the rights back to Marvel, fine, they can do X-Force, X-Factor, Excalibur, Cable, whatever and just start fresh.
It's starting to hurt watching these fails. Four good movies in the X-Franchise? No, it's time to die while the comic book fans don't entirely despise it.
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