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    centrd — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 08:04 AM)

    I agree. I don't think Trixie will have any problem finding out Lucifer's the devil. She just loves who she loves. 🙂
    "Beauty chains me to the earthThe heavens are not a place for human souls."

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      barbarawstuller — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 03:26 PM)

      For some odd reason, I have assumed from Trixie and Lucifer's very first meeting, when he told her his name and she said, "like the devil?" that she just accepted that he was indeed the devil. As an innocent child it was simply no big deal. He was her friend and that was that. Just like Maze.
      So if Chloe ever does find out and tells Trixie, I expect Trixie's response to be something like, "yeah, so, what took you so long, Mom?"

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        morrigan-13140 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 04:54 PM)

        Those were my thoughts too. Lucifer's answer was "Precisely!" so why would Trixie question him further? She simply told him her name. He went on to champion her cause with with the other girl and Trixie knew it, cementing their relationship or at least her fondness for him.
        I love the way Trixie now just accepts his presence in her life as something normal and expected.

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          centrd — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 06:25 PM)

          And still, he believes he's a monster. 😞
          "Beauty chains me to the earthThe heavens are not a place for human souls."

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            morrigan-13140 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 07:08 PM)

            I wonder if it isn't Trixie's unquestioning trust and love for him that starts his swing back from the guilt trip and destructive behaviour. Maybe it is Trixie's acceptance that balances Linda's rejection.

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              centrd — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 08:02 PM)

              Aww, that would be great. I hope so. Seems like Lucifer's going to be helping Chloe with a really personal case this coming week in "My Little Monkey", involving her dad and maybe that will be the opening for him to be more involved with her family.
              "Beauty chains me to the earthThe heavens are not a place for human souls."

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                iabanon — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 08:12 PM)

                I would lOVE for their to be a scene between Lucifer and Trixie where he reveals his face to her and she's like 'Cool, can i touch it'. Hahaha. And he's taken aback by her attitude towards him. Would be very touching. And it would be like their 'little secret'.

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                  annadownya — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 01:09 AM)

                  This episode was phenomenal. Lucifer's spiral and desperation was played so well. I liked that the first time we saw him truly upset it was treated with the gravitas it deserved. My fave part though was Linda. I liked how when she first goes to Lux and tells him her door is always open and he angrily tells her to shut it, then after the reveal when he leaves her office he deliberately leaves the
                  door open. It not only obviously framed her frozen shock perfectly, but it was an excellent throwback to her open door comment. I took it as him keeping hope open that she could come to terms with it and he could still come back. I think she's the best person to know the truth. If a reoccurring human character was going to know I'd rather Linda then Chloe, it's less predictable and it makes the "therapy" less pointless and frustrating to watch. Cannot wait for next episode.

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                    centrd — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 01:17 AM)

                    Yes, it's kind of an iconic setup, 'the devil has a therapist'. Once Linda gets over her initial shock, it should make for some EXCELLENT sessions. When he finally lets down all of his walls and talks straight with her, as himself, all hell could break loose. lol.
                    "Beauty chains me to the earthThe heavens are not a place for human souls."

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                      Rat_lover — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 01:40 AM)

                      The sessions are going to be awesome for sure.

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                        BasementKat — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 09:24 AM)

                        My fave part though was Linda. I liked how when she first goes to Lux and tells him her door is always open and he angrily tells her to shut it, then after the reveal when he leaves her office he deliberately leaves the door open. It not only obviously framed her frozen shock perfectly, but it was an excellent throwback to her open door comment. I took it as him keeping hope open that she could come to terms with it and he could still come back. I think she's the best person to know the truth. If a reoccurring human character was going to know I'd rather Linda then Chloe
                        Great observations! Lucifer feeling guilt for the first time and "leaving the door open" for Linda's help is are big steps for him. As his therapist, Linda has the background and relationship with Lucifer to be the best one to help him. I think she'll feel both a personal and professsional obligation to overcome her personal difficulties and do everything she can to help Lucifer work through his issues. It could be a tremendous personal growth process for her as well. And of course we'll all get to sit back and watch the story unfold.

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                          Darry227 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 03:47 AM)

                          Totally agree! Love this episode, especially Maze's & Lucifer's reveals. Amazing work!
                          I hope Linda doesn't avoid Lucifer moving forward.

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                            kurt-2000 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 03:53 AM)

                            The sneak peek for next week's episode shows Linda avoiding Lucifer and Maze. Which supports my theory that her reaction was similar to Mrs. Warren's reaction in The Conjuring where she needed eight days by herself after seeing the face of hell.

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                              TylerFX — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 04:23 AM)

                              I loved Trixie's reaction to Maze's demon face And then how Maze had that relieved smile. Also the man asking who Trixie was dressed as and her reply @the president of Mars Duh" lol.
                              Everyone seems to be telling Luci that Uriel's death is not his fault or saying that they don't blame Lucifer. Amenadiel blames himself and their dad, not Luci.
                              I hope the doc comes out of her shock soon and is still able to counsel him.
                              The scene where Luci hugged Dan and Dan was like "what the hell?" Was hilarious.

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                                centrd — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 08:15 AM)

                                omg, that hug WAS hilarious!
                                And interesting how Lucifer can't hear all those people telling him it's not his fault. The only one who ever gets through to him (was the son of a preacher man)nosorryhahatry that againthe only one who ever gets through to him is Chloe. When it comes to his existential stuff, anyway.
                                So no matter what he thinks, he's going to have to have a talk with Chloe. Sheesh, I'd just be happy for a moment like that between them, when he realizes she actually can help.
                                "Beauty chains me to the earthThe heavens are not a place for human souls."

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                                  samhaincat-50015 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 03:09 PM)

                                  Seriously when he disdainfully said that line about "a warm fuzzy hug" I literally yelled at the tv and said you need one - but from Chloe.

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                                    annadownya — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 09:44 AM)

                                    I think the difference in shock levels for people knowing the truth is going to come down to their character. I think for "bad" people, the core of their reaction is realizing that they are going to be punished, that their actions have consequences beyond anything they could have preioviosly imagined. That's what sends them into such a PAINFUL, irrecoverable shock. For good or even mediocre people like Linda, it's more a matter of reconciling 2 realities. She doesn't have the "I'm going to burn in hell for my awful deeds" thought to cope with as well. That's why I think she'll do better with it, given time. The only thing I'm hoping is they don't take some stereotypical route of Amenediel being the one to talk her down. I want it to be her own soul searching or maybe Maze. Hell, even Ella's fine with me. Plus while we are not ever totally in biblical dogma chains with this show, it does borrow from that mythos obviously and in there, humans have been confronted with divinity. Obviously Mary but also shepherds, Joseph, etc. People saw Gabriel. Granted they were really good people but they coped so there is SOME precedent for Linda being ok eventually.

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                                      centrd — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 10:21 AM)

                                      Great points!
                                      Man is born into trouble as sparks fly upward. Lucifer Morningstar

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                                        jncarriere — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 02:22 PM)

                                        I'm looking forward to seeing the ripple effect,as a counselor and knowing Lucifer works with Chloe. Will she feel a sort of duty to talk to Chloe and I'm sure she knows Maze lives with Chloe. Lots of great stuff coming up.
                                        imperfection is an altogether attainable human goal, and love is acceptance of imperfections.

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                                          barbarawstuller — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 02:54 PM)

                                          As a counselor, doctor/patient confidentiality would come into play so I don't think Linda will talk to Chloe at all. Only because she is freaked out will she talk to Maze, and also realizing that Maze is "something" since she was with Lucifer, so it would not be a revelation to Maze.
                                          Besides, if Chloe doesn't believe Lucifer, I'm not sure she would believe Linda either, especially if Linda is still freaking out at the time. She'd just think that the doctor needs a doctor.

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