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kurt-2000 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 03:53 AM)
The sneak peek for next week's episode shows Linda avoiding Lucifer and Maze. Which supports my theory that her reaction was similar to Mrs. Warren's reaction in The Conjuring where she needed eight days by herself after seeing the face of hell.
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TylerFX — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 04:23 AM)
I loved Trixie's reaction to Maze's demon face And then how Maze had that relieved smile. Also the man asking who Trixie was dressed as and her reply @the president of Mars Duh" lol.
Everyone seems to be telling Luci that Uriel's death is not his fault or saying that they don't blame Lucifer. Amenadiel blames himself and their dad, not Luci.
I hope the doc comes out of her shock soon and is still able to counsel him.
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centrd — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 08:15 AM)
omg, that hug WAS hilarious!
And interesting how Lucifer can't hear all those people telling him it's not his fault. The only one who ever gets through to him (was the son of a preacher man)nosorryhahatry that againthe only one who ever gets through to him is Chloe. When it comes to his existential stuff, anyway.
So no matter what he thinks, he's going to have to have a talk with Chloe. Sheesh, I'd just be happy for a moment like that between them, when he realizes she actually can help.
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annadownya — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 09:44 AM)
I think the difference in shock levels for people knowing the truth is going to come down to their character. I think for "bad" people, the core of their reaction is realizing that they are going to be punished, that their actions have consequences beyond anything they could have preioviosly imagined. That's what sends them into such a PAINFUL, irrecoverable shock. For good or even mediocre people like Linda, it's more a matter of reconciling 2 realities. She doesn't have the "I'm going to burn in hell for my awful deeds" thought to cope with as well. That's why I think she'll do better with it, given time. The only thing I'm hoping is they don't take some stereotypical route of Amenediel being the one to talk her down. I want it to be her own soul searching or maybe Maze. Hell, even Ella's fine with me. Plus while we are not ever totally in biblical dogma chains with this show, it does borrow from that mythos obviously and in there, humans have been confronted with divinity. Obviously Mary but also shepherds, Joseph, etc. People saw Gabriel. Granted they were really good people but they coped so there is SOME precedent for Linda being ok eventually.
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jncarriere — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 02:22 PM)
I'm looking forward to seeing the ripple effect,as a counselor and knowing Lucifer works with Chloe. Will she feel a sort of duty to talk to Chloe and I'm sure she knows Maze lives with Chloe. Lots of great stuff coming up.
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barbarawstuller — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 02:54 PM)
As a counselor, doctor/patient confidentiality would come into play so I don't think Linda will talk to Chloe at all. Only because she is freaked out will she talk to Maze, and also realizing that Maze is "something" since she was with Lucifer, so it would not be a revelation to Maze.
Besides, if Chloe doesn't believe Lucifer, I'm not sure she would believe Linda either, especially if Linda is still freaking out at the time. She'd just think that the doctor needs a doctor. -
centrd — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 04:01 PM)
I think what we're seeing right here is a great example of why it's unethical for therapists to become friends with, or treat, any of a patient's friends. It's rife with potential disaster.
Linda's actually already pushing the boundaries by treating Lucifer and befriending all the women in his life. I suppose as long as she doesn't treat them, or spill any of his secrets, she can manage, but what if she were to learn something that she felt put one of them, or her patient, in danger? Gets very sticky. (could make for some great drama, though.)
I had a similarly disastrous situation happen once when I was talking to a counselor after my mother died and I'd just had my second child. She'd been recommended by a good friend from our kids' playgroup who was seeing her and thought she was great. I think I saw this counselor a total of 3 or 4 times. Unfortunately, another member of this playgroup's daughter was exhibiting some disturbing signs that made me get worried for my own 3 yr old daughter who told me she didn't want to go to the girl's birthday party and why. I asked my therapist what she thought was going on and what I should do. It turned into a complete disaster. The therapist said she had to report the child's behavior to the state because it was symptomatic of sexual abuse. I totally understood that and was grateful the child would hopefully be protected. But then everything hit the fan. The therapist also brought my friend into it who knew the other woman much better than I did as they lived across the street from each other. This caused all hell to break loose because my friend somehow thought that she was also suspected, which was never my intention. I was just asking this counselor what to watch out for, answered questions about things I'd heard from my friend and tried to get advice on how to handle the entire situation. (at this point, the whole grief thing was out the window.) Anyway, I just knew my number one priority was my daughter's well being, and the kids in general, not the drama, so I just left the playgroup. That didn't go over well, but I honestly didn't care at that point. I did try really hard to get us all into the counselor's office together to sort everything out, because, at that point, a lot of talk was flying around and I still wasn't 100% sure what was going on. I figured we could at least sit down and make sure the facts were all on the table clearing up any misunderstandings and protecting the kids in the process. But the other moms absolutely refused this idea, which was disturbing in itself. In the meantime, the mother of the daughter in question admitted to my friend that she had been severely abused as a child, etc. So there was some pretty strong evidence of where the daughter's behavior might be coming from. Meanwhile, while everyone was having a major freakout, mainly because of the way this counselor was conveying information back and forth, the woman and daughter in question and husband just up and moved out of state. And it's quite clear why they did, basically leaving in the middle of the night and telling no one, so that Social Services would not have any jurisdiction over them. Anyway, everything that happened put a serious strain on my friendship with the first woman. I thought I was speaking in confidence to a counselor and never in a million years would have guessed that she'd repeat anything or misrepresent something I'd said to my friend who thought that I suspected her because of family things she'd told me that I repeated to the therapist, which SHE asked. It was truly a nightmare and while I'm glad the issue came to light before my daughter was harmed, everything else just went to hell. In the end, the abuse was most likely not stopped and a friendship was never the same. At least my child was safe. But man, what a way to get there. I suppose I should be grateful, but if I ever go see a therapist again, I will make sure that no one I even remotely know or have heard of in my life is also a patient. I am serious. lol.
So anyway, loooong story short, this is a prime example of why therapists need to never treat friends of a patient, and mixing with them socially is asking for trouble, too.
"Beauty chains me to the earthThe heavens are not a place for human souls." -
kurt-2000 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 04:31 PM)
a great example of why it's unethical for therapists to become friends with, or treat, any of a patient's friends. It's rife with potential disaster.
It's just a little light hearted comedy/fantasy drama, from the Fox 'we're not too serious about story lines' network.
Reallythe essay was too introspective here.