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    tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 10:59 AM)

    No, notheaters are charities, remember?

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      LetThemEatCake01 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:22 AM)

      They seem like it, because according to your logic, only 1% of movies, the 700 million box office range, make any money.

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        OdumC — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:28 AM)

        That completely depends on their production budget.
        If Movie "A" cost $100m to make, Grosses $700m, has to split the gross with theaters 50/50, it's made $300m.
        If Movie "B" takes $250m to make, Grosses $700m, has to split the gross with theaters 50/50, it's made $225m.
        That's not even taking advertising into account.

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          LetThemEatCake01 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:35 AM)

          doesn't make any sense to me at all, what stops them from making their own theaters and getting 100% of the profit?

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            tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:43 AM)

            Okay, let's look at that.
            Let's say Warner Brothers makes their own theaters. Now, they need to make enough theaters in enough markets to distribute the film, right? BvS opening in 4,242 theaters. Let's assume that's screens and not physical buildings and cut that number in half to compensate for multiplexes that played it on more than one screen. 2121 theaters.
            Now, guess what? Theaters usually lease the land they put theaters on and have to pay rent. And utilities. And unions. And non-union workers. And they then have to shell out money for maintenance services, concessionsall the things in a theater. So, aside from the extraordinary initial expenses of WB building these theaters, they'd still NEVER get 100% of the gross.

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              LetThemEatCake01 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:55 AM)

              Then why make movies, by your statements, the numbers simply don't add up, and that's just for commercial cinema, let's not even go into dramatic films, by your logic none of them are profitable.

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                OdumC — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 12:01 PM)

                Again, it all depends on the budget. most dramatic films aren't cgi loaded messes that take a ton to produce.
                It's not "MY" logic, it's how they figure profits/losses on films.
                Also keep in mind they can churn out something for $100m and have it turn around and break $1b and then it's yachts for everyone. when they dump a truckload of cash into a CGI heavy tentpole film and it barely breaks even, that's a dud.
                But this is why the dceu is churning out duds and no, not making "thrice their budget"

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                  OdumC — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:44 AM)

                  To what? just show their own studios films? if that were the case theaters would be spaced apart like gas stations. and where do the smaller studios show their films? What happens if a studio has a bad year? do their theaters shut down or just stand empty taking huge losses all year?
                  Should they all get independant streaming video services too?

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                    tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:47 AM)

                    Remember when WB thought opening their own retail stores was the way to sell their merchandise?

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                      LetThemEatCake01 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:49 AM)

                      Splitting the profits with theaters 50/50 just seems insane. What do the theaters do? Certainly not the work that studios do.

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                        tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:50 AM)

                        They sell the product the studio makes.
                        Seriously? This is how business works.

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                          OdumC — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:51 AM)

                          Not to mention how many films does a studio have out at one time? 2? 3? who wants to go to a theater that has 3 choices over a theater that has 15-20?
                          What happens when a film has been out so long it's no longer drawing crowds but they don't have anything new to show? just keep playing the same unwatched film to empty rooms until something new comes out?

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                            tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 12:06 PM)

                            They rent it out for deck hockey, silly!

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                              CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 02:44 PM)

                              If you ever listen to the studios then they never make money ever and they are all running at a loss and cinema is failing and theatres are all going to shut down. This has been happening at least since the invention of home video, or as long as I can remember.
                              To make a great film you need three things - the script, the script and the script -Alfred Hitchcock

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                                LetThemEatCake01 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 05:05 PM)

                                Well I've never hear any studio say that, it's always the fans who factor in marketing and others things where it actually seems impossible for any film to make any profit.

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                                  OdumC — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 06:22 PM)

                                  It's not impossible for films to make a profit, they still get to add on revenue from home disk sales and merchandising after the fact, but that doesn't change the fact that the benchmark for how a film does it it's gross box office take and if that's low, it's the first indication of a basic failure. (as again, they don't get 100% of disk sales or merchandising either, it's just some aftermarket icing on the cake)

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                                    LetThemEatCake01 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 07:11 PM)

                                    I've been looking at a lot of box office numbers the last few days and pretty much 90% of movies both tentpoles and none tentpoles only make double of their budget, no more, according to people in here and others, that is not enough to make a profit, so what movie is making a profit? BvS tripled its budget but its still a dud?? doesn't make sense to me.

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