Lamia shouldn't have died that way *spoilers*
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cyberose23 — 15 years ago(October 23, 2010 09:21 AM)
I am familiar with metaphor thank you.
But her destruction by light seems to be incongruent when all along her character's aim has been to attain the brightest star possible.
If accepting the premise that light banishes the darkness, to remain congruent, you would expect that if the queen of darkness ate the light of a star heart, it would instead be harmful, rather than giving her strength. -
ViperXVII — 15 years ago(November 16, 2010 06:51 PM)
Yet you can't know the effects nor reality of the heart cyber. To my mind your example would be akin to saying eating a porcupine's heart should be lethal, simply because the exterior is harmful wouldn't you say?
And let's not forget its a fantasy movie
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cyberose23 — 12 years ago(June 21, 2013 06:01 PM)
No a porcupine's heart would not be expected to be spiked.
Her heart should be "glowing when you cut it out" (mormo quote)- the glowing state of the heart informs how brightly the star shines externally.
So both the star heart and the star herself glow when the other is glowing
Porcupine heart does not share a common connection to its spikes -
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moundshroud — 15 years ago(November 19, 2010 12:23 PM)
Book spoilers below
In the book (as in the movie) when the witch uses her powers, she ages. By the time she encounters Yvaine, she is old, small, and powerless. She also realizes that she can't have Yvaine's heart because Yvaine has given her heart to Tristran. Yvaine feels pity for her, and gives her a kiss on the cheek.
As you can see, what one would expect to be a climactic encounter between Yvaine and the witch becomes a quiet, anticlimactic meeting. It lacks the whiz-bang razzle-dazzle that movie audiences desire, so I completely understand why Vaughn decided instead to stage a spectacular finale. -
UberNoodle — 15 years ago(November 13, 2010 01:45 AM)
That's like complaining if somebody was dropped into the sun, that they disintegrated. There is such as a thing as "too much of a good thing". The level of Shine Get that she wanted was not at all what she received, due entirely to the TRUE LOVE factor. The previous and only known fallen star beforehand was just really really happy.
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chilone — 10 years ago(September 14, 2015 08:45 AM)
Well then carrying it to it's "logical" conclusion instead of cherry picking your fantasy rules, the earth would have been totally obliterated if a star crashed into it.
I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!! -
RemusMoon — 15 years ago(December 20, 2010 09:34 AM)
It's fantasy. I know that's a clich answer, but it can't really be explained. Just the same as the Wicked Witch of the West from The Wizard of Oz - since when does one melt into the ground from having a bucket of water chucked over them?
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otlndr — 15 years ago(January 22, 2011 07:48 PM)
Haven't any of you heard the old belief that you conquer something when you eat it? By eating the light the darkness conquers it and gains it power for itself.
Don't you love Haiku?
Its order, the way it flows?
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cyberose23 — 12 years ago(June 21, 2013 05:44 PM)
Anyone silly enough to enter into a discussion forum about a film before they've seen it will be exposed to cetain plot details at their own risk - you want to read all about a movie before you've even watched it? that's redundant
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tehck — 15 years ago(February 26, 2011 08:46 AM)
As Yvain tells Tristan, "I couldn't have done it without you." Although Lamia has said she wants the star healthy and glowing, I'm assuming that she's never tried to cut the heart out of one that wasn't bound, weakened, and dispirited. As for the "path" of the light, Yvain is evidently able to direct or control it to some extent because the only thing she harms is the evil witch. The witches' palace suffers no (more) damage. More importantly, recall that Yvain tells Tristan to close his eyes and hold tightly to her, suggesting there is some risk to him if he's not protected in this way. So there is some internal logic to the manner of Lamia's death, but such hairsplitting is sort of ridiculous in a story in which a rock wall separates a village in Victorian England from a magical domain called Stormhold where witches can turn men into goats and goats into men and stars can whisper warnings to their sister's protector but not to their sister herself. If you're looking for plot holes I suggest that the mystery of the whispering stars (as well as the unexpectedly brief distance from the hole in the wall to the witches' castle)is far bigger than a star on earth being able to burn a queen of darkness.
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sErpEnt_v — 14 years ago(June 19, 2011 01:53 PM)
It could -beautifully, I think- be interpreted as an underlying message that says:
ultimately all dark things - whether they know it or not - seek the light, even if it kills them.
I don't know, Butchie, instead.
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Live_Dream — 11 years ago(September 21, 2014 01:05 PM)
People are being too nice and forgetting about logic - to the point of forgetting about the film's own logic, by writing it off as a metaphor.
But Lamia has eaten "star heart" before and not died. Saying that the heart was too bright is like saying that, even though she's eaten, let's say, steak all her life, one steak was so delicious it killed her.
However different the film ending is from the book doesn't matter - the film is ignoring its own logic and just telling viewers to accept anything because it's a fantasy, which sucks. But as long as viewers keep accepting this, film makers will keep pulling this crap.
