Bisexual? With her it makes sense!
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Hassan_Scarborough — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 04:16 PM)
So now your sidestepping the issue all together?
That you would probably be happier if you did stop watching these movies.
How does the above equal a side step? and why is watching or not watching, a concern of yours? -
mddwbsst — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 08:40 AM)
How does the above equal a side step?
How does not replying to it and instead trying to change the conversation not equal a side step?
and why is watching or not watching, a concern of yours?
Concern? What concern.
You said there is little keeping you watching these movies. I said you would probably happier if you just stopped. -
Hassan_Scarborough — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 09:01 AM)
"You said there is little keeping you watching these movies. I said you would probably happier if you just stopped."
So where did I side step? You made a comment. You never asked a question that I "side stepped"
Maybe you are not clear on the meaning of that phrase.
Either way move on to something else. The subject and topic is a dead issue. -
ThisGuy4000 — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 04:27 PM)
A Game of Thrones style sex scene would at least keep me interested
Not gonna happen of course, so you might as well stop asking for it.
And don't forget Deadpool is pansexual.
Tell me something I don't know.
So don't throw a fit when he's kissing men and transsexuals.
Why would I throw a fit about that? I just think it's annoying how most of your posts for the past day have been about how much you want to see Gal Gadot making out with one of her female co-stars. If you want to see that stuff so badly, watch a porno, or an episode of
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Hassan_Scarborough — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 06:11 PM)
If you'd rather watch Chris Pine then that's your prerogative.
I'm not going to throw a temper tantrum because a character is turned bisexual.
I never wrote it should be a porno. But why would I complain otherwise? -
ThisGuy4000 — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 07:40 PM)
I'd rather not watch anyone. I don't watch superhero movies for porn.
I'm not going to throw a temper tantrum because a character is turned bisexual
Who said anything about a temper tantrum? I just think you're being extremely perverted.
I never wrote it should be a porno. But why would I complain otherwise?
You seemed to suggest that you wouldn't watch the movie unless you get some lesbian sex scenes, which is a pretty shallow reason to want to watch a superhero movie. -
Hassan_Scarborough — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 08:23 AM)
DC, not Superhero films in general, aren't offering much and I actually have no interest other than WW.
Now you have gone on a rampage over this. This isn't the only thread you've attacked people on.
DC can add a same sex love scene if they want. Who are you to tell people what they want?
Who are you to dismiss this change?
DC can do whatever they want and same sex isn't perverted.
It's time for you to move on to something else. You are a homophobe. You are far from being an enlightened comic book geek. And you certainly can't lecture me on CBMs. -
ThisGuy4000 — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 08:54 AM)
First of all, I haven't "attacked" anyone besides you.
Second, a homophobe? When have I ever said that I have a problem with Wonder Woman sleeping with women? I made a goddamn thread from a month ago where I clearly said that Wonder Woman
should
be a lesbian. You're the one who's being a homophobe. You don't care about equal representation, you just want to see women getting it on for your own selfish desire to get a boner. You're the one who's homophobic, so don't you dare pretend that you're some righteous individual, when you're not. You're just a pervert.
You view women as objects. You don't support the LGBT community. I do, hence why I'm the one who wanted Wonder Woman to be a lesbian. Not because I think it's "hot" (I'm asexual anyway), but because I think it would be more progressive. -
Hassan_Scarborough — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 09:28 AM)
So you wanted Wonder Woman to be a lesbian?
I thought she was bisexual?
Oh, so you merely wanted to fuel an agenda.
I mentioned a fellow Amazon I thought Diana would be good with but you can't because you don't know anything about the comic book.
Making light to piss off trolls is something I do. And I am free to do what I want.
Now, you still have NO right telling DC what they can and can't do.
Blue is the Warmest Color had graphic sex in it but that didn't take away from the story line.
Again, you are the last person that needs to address me on this matter.
Attacking people isn't the way to get your point across.
Being Asexual means all you have is an agenda. You don't have a clear understanding of the difference between porn and the need is for people to have contact sexually even means.
But acting like a hurt child isn't the way to get your point across. Learn to conduct yourself as an adult.
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ThisGuy4000 — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 09:42 AM)
She supposedly is bisexual, but I pointed out that I personally think it would be better for her to be a lesbian because frankly, lesbians still don't get very much representation in comics. There's Batwoman and Montoya, but most of the other LGBT females in comics are bisexuals who end up with men anyway. On another note, there aren't very many bisexual men in comics outside of Constantine and Deadpool either, and in the latter's case, he's a depraved sex maniac, so he's not the best representation of bisexual men.
I dont care what other films have. You're not going to see graphic sex scenes in a superhero film, especially not if it's PG-13. My reason for responding to you was because you have been coming off as a pervert who wouldn't give this movie a chance unless it does have lesbian sex scenes. My point was that if you want that so badly, you'd be better off downloading porn.
Also, its kind of difficult to have a "civilized dialogue" when not only are you constantly going on about sex, but you're also throwing around accusations just to make you feel better about yourself. -
Hassan_Scarborough — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 12:22 PM)
She supposedly is bisexual, but I pointed out that I personally think it would be better for her to be a lesbian because frankly, lesbians still don't get very much representation in comics.
A "lesbian" needs to be a character that was one from a young age. Diana really isn't the best representation of a
lesbian
.
Nor should her celebrity be used to push that agenda forward.
There's Batwoman and Montoya, but most of the other LGBT females in comics are bisexuals who end up with men anyway. On another note, there aren't very many bisexual men in comics outside of Constantine and Deadpool either, and in the latter's case, he's a depraved sex maniac, so he's not the best representation of bisexual men.
Then you don't know much about the comic books and the homosexual community doesn't need someone with such limited knowledge helping them. No offense.
I dont care what other films have. You're not going to see graphic sex scenes in a superhero film, especially not if it's PG-13.
Again, it's not up to you what will be featured in ANY Superhero film. PG-13 or otherwise.
My reason for responding to you was because you have been coming off as a pervert who wouldn't give this movie a chance unless it does have lesbian sex scenes. My point was that if you want that so badly, you'd be better off downloading porn.
I just gave you an example of a highly acclaimed film that featured graphic sexual content between two women. So your logic and argument has failed. It is not "perverted" to want to watch Gal Gadot interact with another woman.
A person wanting to watch Joker rape and torture Dr. Harleen Quinzel is "perverted."
I didn't see a thread where you complained about Clark jumping in a tub with a presumed naked Lois Lane. You can't have it both ways. And please post the comment where I wrote that I wanted to watch graphic sex of any kind.
Also, its kind of difficult to have a "civilized dialogue" when not only are
you constantly going on about sex, but you're also throwing around accusations just to make you feel better about yourself
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Copy and paste those "accusations" -
ThisGuy4000 — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 12:36 PM)
A "lesbian" needs to be a character that was one from a young age. Diana really isn't the best representation of a lesbian
Who says she can't be one from a young age? They could easily hand wave any relationship she's had with men as her simply being curious, but not really attracted to them.
Then you don't know much about the comic books and the homosexual community doesn't need someone with such limited knowledge helping them. No offense
How many female characters are confirmed to be lesbian compared to bisexual? How many male characters are bisexual compared to the ones who are gay? Hypothetical examples like Batman don't count.
I didn't see a thread where you complained about Clark jumping in a tub with a presumed naked Lois Lane. You can't have it both ways. And please post the comment where I wrote that I wanted to watch graphic sex of any kind.
That was a graphic sex scene? They didn't even show a thing. Having Gal Gadot kissing another woman is fine, but it sounded to me like you wanted some
Game of Thrones
style sex scenes.
Copy and paste those "accusations".
There was you calling me a homophobe, despite the fact that I never expressed any problems with the idea of Wonder Woman sleeping with other women. I simply thought it was obnoxious how you kept talking about wanting to see her have some graphic sex scenes with other women. For the record, I wouldn't want her to have any graphic sex scene with Steve Trevor either. -
mockingjay-07058 — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 01:10 PM)
What is the point of discussing this to death? It won't be addressed in the movie. The story is not going to consist on if she is a lesbian, or bi or not. The story will focus on her upbringing and why she feels the need to leave the island. Period.
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ThisGuy4000 — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 03:25 PM)
It just started off as me replying to the other poster. When I get into arguments with someone, they generally don't end for a while. I can see that Hassan has apparently ignored me though, so I guess the argument is done.
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Hassan_Scarborough — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 01:28 PM)
Who says she can't be one from a young age? They could easily hand wave any relationship she's had with men as her simply being curious, but not really attracted to them.
If they do that for the film then fine but as it stands she just got out of a relationship with Superman. And that does an injustice to women that knew they were gay at a young age and have never engaged in a relationship with a man.
And it ignores the characters DC has introduced:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/11/dc-comics-transgender-batgirl_n_3061268.html
DC Comics has introduced a new lesbian, gay, transgender and bisexual (LGBT) friendly character: Alysia Yeoh, the transgender roommate of Batgirl.
How many female characters are confirmed to be lesbian compared to bisexual? How many male characters are bisexual compared to the ones who are gay? Hypothetical examples like Batman don't count.
I can name 50 from DC alone. Again you have not a single clue. And pushing your agenda on Wonder Woman doesn't serve much in the way of a purpose. I think it makes sense for her to love women too because she loves everyone.
I named a character that she's been close to. You whined about that and wanted to claim it's
perverted
.
You need to learn more about these characters as a whole.
That was a graphic sex scene? They didn't even show a thing. Having Gal Gadot kissing another woman is fine, but it sounded to me like you wanted some Game of Thrones style sex scenes.
"Sounded"
I'm not yelling at the top of my lungs that it needs be anything other than holding hands. I wrote in jest that Gal holding Amy around her waste was something. Why your mind went elsewhere is beyond me, but that doesn't mean that showing two women making love is "perverted"
You are causing more harm to your own agenda than good.
There was you calling me a homophobe, despite the fact that I never expressed any problems with the idea of Wonder Woman sleeping with other women. I simply thought it was obnoxious how you kept talking about wanting to see her have some graphic sex scenes with other women. For the record, I wouldn't want her to have any graphic sex scene with Steve Trevor either.
"Graphic sex scene" does not take anything away from a film about two people in love with each other. That's a silly argument. Again I named a well received CBM that did include graphic sex.
Thinking that there is something wrong with sex is the problem with asexual people.
To be honest I don't want any romance or sex scenes in an action oriented comic book film at all
. Showing people caring about each other and some light touching is fine.
Diana kissing Dessa for instance
, makes sense because of how they interacted with each other in the comics.
But if I want to watch two beautiful women touching each other, that's me and that's not "perverted" and it is homophobic for it to bother you. -
ThisGuy4000 — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 01:51 PM)
If they do that for the film then fine but as it stands she just got out of a relationship with Superman. And that does an injustice to women that knew they were gay at a young age and have never engaged in a relationship with a man.
Most women who are gay also never grew up on an island full of nothing but women. They could easily dismiss any relationships she's had with men as simply her being curious.
DC Comics has introduced a new lesbian, gay, transgender and bisexual (LGBT) friendly character: Alysia Yeoh, the transgender roommate of Batgirl.
You're really counting some unimportant background character as an example?
I can name 50 from DC alone. Again you have not a single clue. And pushing your agenda on Wonder Woman doesn't serve much in the way of a purpose. I think it makes sense for her to love women too because she loves everyone.
I named a character that she's been close to. You whined about that and wanted to claim it's perverted.
You need to learn more about these characters as a whole.
You can name 50 lesbians, and 50 bisexual men from DC alone? So name them all then. I also never claimed showing her being romantically involved with another woman is perverted. You either have horrible reading comprehension skills, or you're twisting what I said to further your agenda. I simply said that your requests for graphic sex scenes are perverted. It has nothing to do with the sex of the people she's sleeping with. Get that through your thick head why don't you?
"Sounded"
I'm not yelling at the top of my lungs that it needs be anything other than holding hands. I wrote in jest that Gal holding Amy around her waste was something. Why your mind went elsewhere is beyond me, but that doesn't mean that showing two women making love is "perverted"
You are causing more harm to your own agenda than good.
You wrote that you would only show real interest in this movie if they gave Gal Gadot some hardcore sex scenes with another female. That makes you sound immature and disrespectful to LGBT women. It suggests that you don't view them as people, you view them as objects for your own fantasies. That's what's truly homophobic.
"Graphic sex scene" does not take anything away from a film about two people in love with each other. That's a silly argument. Again I named a well received CBM that did include graphic sex.
Blue is the Warmest Color
is a CBM? Also, wasn't that film a borderline NC-17? You're not going to see that kind of stuff in a CBM like this. I would honestly love for them to show Wonder Woman being in a relationship with another woman, but that doesn't mean they would need to show graphic sex scenes that would make the film NC-17.
Thinking that there is something wrong with sex is the problem with asexual people
So now you think there's something wrong with being asexual? Who's really the bigot here?
To be honest I don't want any romance or sex scenes in an action oriented comic book film at all. Showing people caring about each other and some light touching is fine. Diana kissing Dessa for instance, makes sense because of how they interacted with each other in the comics.
Again, her kissing another woman would be fine. Hell, I'd actually prefer that over her kissing Steve Trevor. You've just been giving the impression that you want more than that however. You're making it sound like you want Gadot to get nude with another woman so that they can have some raunchy sex scene that would never fly in a PG-13 film.
Edit: Just an FYI, I'm one of those people who absolutely despised seeing Batman have sex with Batgirl in the animated
Killing Joke
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Hassan_Scarborough — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 02:51 PM)
Most women who are gay also never grew up on an island full of nothing but women. They could easily dismiss any relationships she's had with men as simply her being curious.
But that does a disservice to the character. Eliminating her entire history isn't going to help a lesbian cause. If that's the case it would have been changed when Gloria Steinem complained about the book years ago.
You're really counting some unimportant background character as an example?
You can't dismiss them either and Batwoman is hardly a background character. You also can't dismiss the live action characters from the TV shows either.
You can name 50 lesbians, and 50 bisexual men from DC alone? So name them all then. I also never claimed showing her being romantically involved with another woman is perverted. You either have horrible reading comprehension skills, or you're twisting what I said to further your agenda.
The point is I shouldn't have to. Why on earth would you start a LGBT crusade without knowing who those characters are. And I already proved a link to one.
and if I list them you still won't know who they are so why should I even bother.
I simply said that your requests for
graphic sex scenes are perverted
. It has nothing to do with the sex of the people she's sleeping with. Get that through your thick head why don't you?
Deadpool says hello and it's not "perverted." That's the part you keep moving that goal post around. And you have an agenda.
You wrote that you would only show real interest in this movie if they gave Gal Gadot some hardcore sex scenes with another female.
Use copy/paste to prove your point.
That makes you sound immature and disrespectful to LGBT women. It suggests that you don't view them as people, you view them as objects for your own fantasies. That's what's truly homophobic.
How does wanting to watch women make out make me homophobic?
That's funny.
You don't want to see it lead to a sexual encounter, and you think that helps the lesbian cause because you missed the
"B"
in LGBT altogether by suggesting that Diana be a lesbian instead of bisexual.
Blue is the Warmest Color is a CBM?
And there we have it folks. Lack of knowledge. Yet you want to argue in favor of a lesbian love affair and then try to claim it never took place in a CBM?
Wow!
Also, wasn't that film a borderline NC-17? You're not going to see that kind of stuff in a CBM like this. I would honestly love for them to show Wonder Woman being in a relationship with another woman, but that doesn't mean they would need to show graphic sex scenes that would make the film NC-17.
I NEVER wrote I wanted to see it, but obviously I wouldn't complain about it. But you can't tell DC what they can and can't do. And graphic sex doesn't stop a film from being award winning and a cohesive and compelling love story. Your bias blinds you.
So now you think there's something wrong with being asexual? Who's really the bigot here?
You are here arguing that "graphic sex" is some how wrong. It's not.
Again, her kissing another woman would be fine. Hell, I'd actually prefer that over her kissing Steve Trevor. You've just been giving the impression that you want more than that however. You're making it sound like you want Gadot to get nude with another woman so that they can have some raunchy sex scene that would never fly in a PG-13 film.
You need to learn to use the markup function and copy paste my exact comments before you attack me with hot air and childish retorts.
Maybe you are young or something but adults want more than tween love stories. Again, I'm against sexual content in these specific films because of kids.
If Diana caresses Dessa's or Nubia's cheek in the next film that fine and harmless.
Anyone having a problem with sex period has an issue. Yours is being asexual. I have the right to want to see whatever I want and to suggest that "graphic sex" is wrong, is the rantings of a child. No offense.
But that's not what I want generally speaking. You could have just asked, instead of jumping to these ridiculous conclusions.
Edit: Just an FYI, I'm one of those people who absolutely despised seeing Batman have sex with Batgirl in the animated Killing Joke movie. Does that mean I'm heterophobic (if that's even a real thing) as well?
Why did you hate it?
I didn't like it at all, but the key is why.
Just answer that and maybe you can understand my point in a clearer way.