any RT critics change their mind after the UE?
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CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 09:28 PM)
In all honesty I doubt most have even viewed it, you would need to have a clear interest in CBM to want to watch the film a second time, a professional critic usually moves on from a movie after viewing it and does not go back to review every cut of a movie released. YouTube can be different because the critic can directly make money from doing a separate review by generating money from the new video. That being said I doubt that the UE would make that much of a difference in a critics eyes, while it is a improvement it is not anywhere near the improvement some people here try and make it out to be and most faults with the movie still exist and now a movie which is long and bloated in the first place is even longer and bloated even more.
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CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 09:51 AM)
Normally I'd agree with you on this but I think the wom reactions from almost everyone viewing the UE version of BvS have been so positive that I think that carries a lot of weight and I think that has made an impact on those critics. I'm not saying they are going to go back and change their ratings but I bet their ratings have majorly changed in a positive way because it's a completely different movie.
It really did not have that huge of an impact on the film for me, right now of the top of my head the only scene that I recall which I felt should have been left in the original release for certain was Superman bringing out the victims of the senate bombing. Other parts helped fill out some of the more obvious gaping holes in the original cut. Still the critics opinion may have improved with the UE but would it have improved enough that the review score they gave would have pushed it into the positive realm? None of us can honestly say as we don't really have that information at hand and even if it did raise the RT score to say the low 30's from the 20's would it even matter? Nearly everyone who has any serious interest in seeing the movie will have done so by now and can make their own minds up.
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derjo201 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 09:56 AM)
I bet their ratings have majorly changed in a positive way because
it's a completely different movie.
Of course it is not. How can you say this? Even if they tried to rescue some things it is still the same story with lots of problems.
Example: Cinema, Europe's biggest movie magazine, voted the TC 3/5. Some month later they gave the UC 4/5. But they also stated that all the mistakes done before could not have been solved. Especially "Martha".
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derjo201 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 10:35 AM)
For me and everyone I have talked to including those who hated the TR version all loved the UE version.
That's your experience. Mine is different. Most of those around me who watched the TC have been very disappointed they even did not wanted to give the UC a chance. Those who did did not thought it redeemed the movie. Including me.
All in all the UC is something for hardcore fans. Not for the general audience. Or for professional critics, The changes might made it slightly better. But they could not change BvS into "a completely different movie" as you said (wrote).
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derjo201 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 11:01 AM)
I guess our experiences really were different.
That's what I was talking about.
But to be honest: Not all those people on this board not liking "BvS" (both versions!) are DC haters or trolls.
Me myself couldn't await to see it after watching that comic con trailer. But when I saw it that movie made me really angry. And the UC could not correct what the TC had done.
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chriso32394 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 03:44 PM)
it depends on your interpretation of a completely different movie:
The UE provides a lot more subtext and contextual story beats that were missing form the UE ( Lexs manipulation of everything, Clark Kent investigating The Batman, motivations are more clear, etc)
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derjo201 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 04:01 PM)
it depends on your interpretation of a completely different movie
No. "The Godfather" and "Mr and Mrs Smith" are different movies. Sorry but this is definitely not a question of interpretation.
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ElDiomedes — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 09:32 AM)
UE didn't fix the problems that BvS had, just added some minutes of dark and gloom stuff. Was informative at times..like bullet, wheelchair, Superman saving lives (That's what he does, but Snyder thought jar of piss was more important for some reason).
How the name, "Martha" brought out the real Batman
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CaptainBatman — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 03:25 PM)
I think so I don't know for sure but most critics who saw the UC said that it at the very least, was way better and cleared up many things for them. A lot of them even went from negative to positive.
