Does it mean you cannot enjoy movies from another franchise? I ask because people keep attacking Marvel and DC movies (a
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AkrayBothorda — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 12:39 AM)
2000AD is awesome. I've never been a serious comic book reader, but I like the one's I've seen.
I do remember the old Spidey cartoon from the eighties, but mostly I remember the camp Batman series. Also my mother was a Superman fan so that rubbed off on me (not to mention being blown away by the first two Superman movies with Christopher Reeve!). I probably have a DC bias because of all that, but have been loving the Marvel movies (except Hulk, of course).
I can understand people not liking the new DC movies, but I've really been enjoying the more serious take exploring what it might be like for an indestructible alien trying to fit in with human society. -
SkeksisGirl — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 12:42 AM)
The problem is, that the people who made the movies completely changed the core of the character and that's where a lot of us are having issues.
This isn't Superman to us, and we want Superman, not this.
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AkrayBothorda — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 05:25 AM)
Well, to be fair Superman has been through many reboots and retellings. I got to read some of the comics my mother kept and, in his original incarnation, he was an overpowered bully who enforced his feelings of right and wrong. He would perform at a circus just because he didn't want it going out of business and kidnapped kids because they needed some tough love. He demolished the home of a magistrate just to serve him some evidence and, of course, crushed the yellow peril 'cause 'Merica!
My point being that the core of the character has been quite fluid and changeable over the years. I don't dismiss the Superman you know and prefer, but he is a character who has been a different hero to different people. -
wickerman71 — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 09:55 AM)
I can understand people not liking the new DC movies, but I've really been enjoying the more serious take exploring what it might be like for an indestructible alien trying to fit in with human society.
Out of all the problems I have with the DCEU films tone or take are not among them. For myself my two biggest problems are rushed scripts & lack of respect for the source material.
Both BvS & SS have far to many elements in them that are not needed to tell the story; so they feel crammed. I just don't see any over all big picture in the DC shared universe; it just looks like throwing a bunch of stuff at a wall to see what sticks. Far too many one note characters that don't add a whole hell of allot to the big picture. So I'm very concerned when the Bewkes & Snyder talk of adding jokes as the all in one solution for the JL movie. Trying to make SS more funny just made it into a bigger hot mess.
Many movie characters act nothing like their comic book characters. This was the problem I had with MoS I gave up on the Superman I knew showing up after he turned Smallville into a war zone. I'm all for inner reflection but could we just have a moment where Sups puts other peoples peril over his own daddy issues(intentional exaggeration). Geoff Johns has taken note on this & I hope moving forward his voice holds weight in the writing department. -
Freddy_Boy — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 01:46 AM)
I had a similar discussion with a co-worker the other day. What we drew from it was that the market today is oversaturated. Major franchises were scarce. To afford the energy of being a fan-boy you need to be selective. There's simply too many films to keep being concerned about.
We've already had quite the year in terms of franchises and remakes that should have drawn our generations interest. Deadpool, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, X-Men: Apocalypse, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows, Warcraft, Independence Day: Resurgence, Ghostbusters, Star Trek Beyond, Jason Bourne, Suicide Squad and Captain America: Civil War. And I'm being selective! There a few more remakes and classics like Jungle Book, Legend of Tarzan and The Magnificent Seven. The year isn't over yet, either. Doctor Strange and a new Star Wars flick is coming too.
So I can totally relate to people choosing a side and sticking to a franchise. Because as it stands I can't find the commitment to even watch all of this years films. Yet, at least. They'll probably warrant a rental but even that's uncertain. -
AkrayBothorda — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 05:18 AM)
I can understand that. In my formative years the choices were much simpler because there were so fewer alternatives. Now the options are overwhelming and it forces people to choose their vice simply due to the lack of hours in the day.
That said, it's one thing to be devoted to a story/character/franchise, and another to react with utter loathing toward people choosing otherwise. In my day that was the Jock hating the Geek for not liking sport. It's an easy attitude to fall into but, as Admiral Akbar says well, you know what he says. -
archer-nexus-823-15038 — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 05:29 AM)
I don't get it either. I myself have been called both a Marvel and DC fanboy, depending on the topic at hand. But the truth is, I couldn't care less about it. Never read comics or even knew exactly which characters belong to which company until MCU emerged and this rivalry became so widespread, so I don't really have any emotional attachment to either company. Both have movies I like and movies I don't like.
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Flamboyant_Little_Devil — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 06:05 AM)
I enjoy characters from both franchises, but to be perfectly honest the DCEU movies are very substandard in terms of script IMHO.
You can enjoy both franchises. That's quite alright.
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justahero — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 12:54 PM)
sure that you can enjoy both
But fans, or however you want to call those pathetic creatures who release their inner hate on the internet, argue and argue. MCU makes fun of low rating and negative reviews of DCEU movies, with which I just simply dont agree and I am still very shocked why are those movies hated so much
This board is the worst everreally so much hatethats why I think that more hate comes from MCU sidemeaning those very bitter and hateful people.
I like DC generally more but MCU is lot of funalthough I have huge problems with it
But come on they started the whole shared universe thing.that is probably the only groundbreaking thing they didand I dont mean that in a negative way they were "first"