Did you find her a pretty good villian? Not good enough? or over the top?
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irish_electrobass — 16 years ago(June 17, 2009 03:07 PM)
No way!!!! I had no idea such a scene existed. After reading your post, I looked up the trivia section and there it was in black and white, lol! I had thought that the director's cut pretty much included all the deleted footage! Such a shame the film was a production mess! At least it was given a second chance with the new versions!
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Lu-21 — 16 years ago(June 18, 2009 09:02 AM)
True, did you miss my post where I said that Faye was told to just run with the role and they would tell her if it was over the top? I meant that as a compliment to Ms. Dunaway actually. I am not very familiar with her work aside from the few ones I have seen on cable TV and CSI and I will be the first to admit that she is one of the best actresses of her generation. I remember seeing Mommy Dearest but I do not really recall much about the acting in the movie for one reason or another.
I will agree with you though, she created and owned the Selena part. What I meant about semi caricature was the fact that the story had been rewritten so many times by the time the movie was shot that nobody was actually sure of how to approach the roles they were given. Which is why I used the term. Even Helen herself admitted that by the time they started shooting, she had no idea of what story the movie was trying to tell. Although we all know the story by heart
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zaltatalos — 16 years ago(January 04, 2010 05:57 PM)
I personally think "Madam Selena" should most definitely be included in to main DC Comics continuity as part of Supergirl's rouges gallery, but I'd cut the camp out of her character and make her a completely heartless, evil and stuff of complete nightmares hell of a high priestess/sorceress (just like the '84 movie claimed as well as the original script format that was intended for Dolly Parton at the time which I've read online.)
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doorbomb62 — 16 years ago(March 29, 2010 11:18 AM)
A long-time Dunaway fan, I agree with Kirsty Cotton. (nice name BTW-
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Faye is a dynamite actress, and was perfect for the role. I can't see anybody else in the part, not Jane, Goldie, or Meryl. Not so sure about Meryl, but Fonda and Hawn were approached for the role apparently, and I don't think they would have pulled off half of the creative characteristics Faye put into what was a terrific villain.
The character Selena herself is an amazing and rapacious woman, written with great wit and strength, which matched with Faye's enormous talent, made for grand villainy that rivaled Helen Slater's superheroine.
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LightningLad — 15 years ago(July 19, 2010 07:03 AM)
I find her to be a good representation of many of the villains Supergirl faced in some of her comics, particularly her run in Adventure Comics. It's basically a Disney princess sort of scenario, with an evil witch, which works fine for me.
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HeartMonger — 14 years ago(December 31, 2011 04:30 PM)
Actually, she was much younger than Gene Hackman who WAS a worthy adversary of Christopher Reeve's Superman so I really don't think your post holds the pacific, kiddo.
Faye Dunaway was the perfect Villainess as she was. There was nothing wrong with her. It was the audience mindset at the time - they were still shell shocked from "Mommie Dearest" and subsequently viewed her as over the top, or campy, when if she had NOT done Mommie Dearest, she would have been loved as much as Gene was in Supermanat least to those who said they didn't like her.
Many people that I know DID like her. She did her job.
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wrbc77 — 9 years ago(July 29, 2016 08:57 AM)
Ethan is just collateral damage. They're fighting over the Omegahedron. It is a source of power.
Whoever has power has the control. Power struggle people! It's all about power. Who uses it, and who abuses it. Very allegorical of 1980s if you ask me.
And BTW-Faye was an amazing villain. She's an imposing and intimidating woman as is, so casting her in the role was a treasure chest!
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