Biggest Plot Hole Ever.
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stf092 — 14 years ago(June 01, 2011 02:16 PM)
it's about actionsin his reality the bomb blows up on that ice planetmost probably causing another reality where the bomb doesn't blow up.
and i think he said "it doesn't matter" because he would rather die from the explosion rather of hunger and cold.
anyway it's just a cartoonit's not meant to be that logic.
sry 4 my english. -
mligorio — 14 years ago(June 04, 2011 08:58 AM)
"In another way I think OwlMan already knows that , that he would in another reality defeat Batman and destroy Earth Prime and that's why he says : "It doesn't matter. " , with a smile in his face."
But Owlman doesn't have to be right. The REAL hole is the fact that he is wrong! Earth Prime by definition is invariable, it cannot change. And that's all there is to it. There is nothing you, I, or Owlman can do to change it. Owlman thinks he is standing on Earth Prime, but he isn't. Its just another one of the infinite Earths, one where a choice was made to stand or it, or not stand it. One where a choice was made to blow it up, or not blow it up.
So, there will indeed be at least one Earth (in fact an infinite number of them) which Owlman succeeds in blowing up, but it will not be Earth Prime.
Simply put, you can't change what you can't change. -
diegoavilarodriguez — 14 years ago(August 13, 2011 02:18 AM)
you know what i just thought of:
A) Owlman was wrong, earth prime doesnt destroy the universe (wow all that for nothing)
B) earth prime, has no longer an effect on the rest of the infinite earths (dont ask me why, i just thought out of nowhere)
other than that, i aint got beep -
sicklydevil — 14 years ago(November 04, 2011 10:47 PM)
Actually, wasn't the idea not so much that on different Earths different things happen, but that we decide different things. So then, wouldn't the alternative of Owlman failing to end all reality not be that he succeeds, but that he decides not to try to end all reality?
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Havenless — 14 years ago(November 16, 2011 03:42 PM)
The actual reason this isn't a plot hole is because they left their universe and broke the fourth wall. They are then outside of the continuum
Like when a time traveler goes to the future. You would think if it's 50 years later, he'd be 50 years older when he got there, but that doesn't happen because he is outside of the rules and boundaries involved.
If you're not willing to suspend disbelief, then you shouldn't be watching superhero cartoons. -
hunter_ryoushi — 14 years ago(December 18, 2011 05:35 AM)
OwlMan's theory for there being multiple universes is that they are created from people's decisions- when we make one decision, we create another universe where we make the opposite decision. So universes do not spring up from failures or successes. Therefore OwlMan's failure does not mean another reality is created in which he succeeds.
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mligorio — 14 years ago(January 18, 2012 09:28 AM)
The question still stands , there can be another dimension where Batman decides to do nothing , and Owlman succeeds.
If there can be a universe where Owlman is successful in destroying Earth Prime and all humanity, there will also be a counterpart universe where Owlman fails. Really, there will be an infinite number of universes where Owlman succeeds and an infinite number of universes where he fails. So, what difference does it make anyway?
Does humanity have the power to change its own destiny, or are we all just wandering around in an endless labyrinth of endless passageways and tunnels for the rest of eternity? And, if we can't change anything in the end, what are we all fighting for? -
Kent_Kainer — 11 years ago(August 26, 2014 01:31 PM)
Well when they still live then maybe the Earth, in that this story took place, wasn't liked to Earth Prime.
Other planets have thinking lifeforms too that do parallel universes with the Earth in it.
See my thoughts there: http://www.imdb.com/board/11494772/board/thread/164553164?p=2&d=233868088#233868088
There must be Krypton Prime too and whatever other planets the DC universe has.
Even an animal should create parallel worlds.
Lincoln Lee: I lost a partner.
Peter Bishop: I lost a universe! -
GaMEChldREBORN — 13 years ago(April 17, 2012 07:42 PM)
Its just a run of the mill Paradox!
Here is my take on it. Yes, there would be two realities, the one where the bomb was teleported away, and a reality where the bomb was not teleported away. However, those TWO realities are two non-Prime Earth's themselves. Every decision on Prime spawns a pair of Earths.
So let's say, Earth Prime, Earth 1, Earth 2. Earth Prime had the bomb. The decision is "bomb leaves Prime." The reality where bomb leaves prime is Earth 1; the reality where bomb stays on Prime is Earth 2. Neither of those results is Prime itself.
having said all that, now it makes me think something completely new. That shows there to be the opposite possibility. Because of my explanation thus far, it seems entirely possible that HAD the bomb stayed on Prime, and exploded, it wouldn't have mattered, since there would be the mirror scenario of the bomb NOT exploding.
It's a double paradox either way.
Due to the symmetry of this whole mess I think I just proved conclusively that I do not exist. Good bye. -
nizzemancer-265-952005 — 13 years ago(July 02, 2012 12:00 PM)
I wasn't Earth Prime, if it were then there wouldn't have been any sign of civilizations at all since it's the world where no choice have ever been made. Yet we see ruins of some sort of civilization supposedly ended by man.
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gsybe — 13 years ago(January 27, 2013 05:25 PM)
No he didn't succeed in any other "reality" because his use of the word "reality" (universe) is just a different Earth. They're all connected to Earth Prime. there is only ONE EARTH PRIME and ONE EARTH 1 AND ONE EARTH 2, AND SO ON.
If there is another universe in which there are multiples of each earth, including earth prime, then your reasoning would make sense. But in the story, whether the writers intended it or not, all the earths exist within ONE REALITY, connected directly to Earth prime, which in the DC universe could be considered the earth we live on, in which superheroes are not real, but that's an entirely different and more convoluted and poorly written story.
Only one earth prime. The one act that in his mind would have mattered (destroying Earth prime and doing something that would actually have an effect in the universe) was impossible for him to complete so he decided "It doesn't matter" at the end because he would have never have been able to get back to Earth Prime to destroy it, thus destroying all existence. -
michaelward15 — 11 years ago(June 02, 2014 06:23 PM)
There's only one reality that matters: earth-prime. Once Owlman and Batman are there, reality continues to split so they are fighting on countless worlds to countless results, but there is one mainline reality which is always on earth prime, and it is the outcome of the fight there that matters. The movie only follows the action along that prime line.