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TheSolarSailor — 13 years ago(August 21, 2012 06:11 PM)
Nolan's trilogy was really great. Why do fans think there always has to be some stupid pissing contest between the various interpretations of Batman? I like all of it, from campy to serious. Is that so hard?
Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?
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TheSolarSailor — 13 years ago(August 25, 2012 05:50 AM)
I love the dark and serious Batman in the new films. The story told is really good, one of the things that trumps the past efforts I think. But the older films have such a fantasy feel with their settings, visuals, and designs that I love them a great deal too. The old series with Adam West is great adventure regardless of the extremely light approach. such an array of fun characters! But I still think that Batman the Animated Series is the best of it all, a great mix of the darker good writing AND the fun fantasy elements. Like I said, it's all fun to me. Batman has been through a great many changes through his many years in the comic books, and all of these efforts on film reflect those varying stages quite effectively. I really do get tired of the extremes some folks take in their entertainment, though. Some just seem to hate anything different and can't accept the newer entries, and then others seem to only like what is new and begin hating or deriding what came before. There is enough room for it all, and one certainly does not take away from the other in any way, at least not for me. Batman having changed so much through the decades is what has kept the franchise alive and prosperous.
Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?
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www1125 — 13 years ago(October 19, 2012 02:08 AM)
I gotta agree with you, SolarSailor. Batman the Animated Series is my favorite as well. Though, I love each version of the character. Each version has something I really enjoy.
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
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tipafo — 13 years ago(August 25, 2012 02:22 PM)
No, I don't only like campy Batman, though Adam West will always be Batman to me. However, he is Batman in his style. I acknowledge (many) other styles of Batman, having seen many over the years. Some I like less than others.
I went through a phase of hating on the West years, on the SuperFriends and other '70's animated versions, I held up Miller's TDKR as The Justification of all my youthful fervor for "the Real" Batman, back when I believed that "anyone (meaning me, if I only tried really hard) could be Batman".
I was in cinema opening night of Burton's
Batman
, thrilled at the prospect of the first live-action Batman of my generation (having been circumspect re Keaton as either Batman or Bruce Wayne), dubious of Jack as Joker (exactly what I expected), and walked away not altogether unpleased with what I experienced. The sequel and Shumaker's sequels had their moments, but not enough.
I didn't much get into the Animated Series; past my afternoon TV time at that point, and long before easy video. Ditto for the Justice League series(s?) Also, I'd grown older and more tired of all the effort to make Batman as relatable as my neighbor, and just wanted to have fun with the characters when I chose to return to them.
I finally watched the 1943/48 serials after they became available on DVD. I'd known about them since at least the buildup to the first of Burton's movies, and found them to be highly entertaining, taken just as entertainment. A slight seriousness with an easy pulpy style. Just like a comic book, for me.
I like what I've seen of
B:TBATB
, mostly the first and second seasons, and it is more in line with what I would like to see in a live-action movie scenario. Also, the animated series,
The Batman
I liked, mostly for Batman and the sidekicks. The villain designs weren't the best, especially Joker, but I did like their treatment of the various Meta-Humans and that whole issue.
I look at it like this: comic books were for me an escape from real life issues. Although Batman has always had at his center the murder of Bruce Wayne's parents, the comic book stories I recall didn't really have him angsty all the time. Grim in the face of human corruption and moral frailty, but I never got depressed reading a comic book in my day.
I'm certainly grateful to Nolan and Bale and Co. for reviving and maintaining interest in Batman, just as I hope others are grateful for the life injected into Batman by earlier (and at times out of favor) adaptations. It seems to me the pendulum swings from dark'n'gritty to light'n'silly in some cycle, with most of the time spend in the ever shifting grey of the middle. I'm hoping to see a bit more lightness in the gloom, is all.
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HarveyManfredSinJohn — 11 years ago(October 28, 2014 03:54 AM)
Sadly, the pendulum is stuck/hasn't swung back from moody and gritty. The "Gotham" TV show, which I like, and the upcoming Batman v Superman seem likely to continue the dark, serious aesthetic of the Nolan films, although at least "Gotham" has room for some of the more outlandish aspects that were missing from TDK trilogy, and seeing as Batman will be joining Superman in the Zack Snyder films I guess they can't be 'realistic'. I just wish there was some more room for humour and colour.
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bond_98 — 13 years ago(December 13, 2012 01:43 PM)
While i like the Nolan movie. Frankly Nolan approach leaves something to be desired. Even in the comics today there still tons of Fantasy Elements. And frankly the only one i can watch over and over again is Batman Begins. I think doing a appropriate batman is somewhere in the middle. Not too much realism and not too much fantasy and after 7 years of dark and glum. Batman could do with a little levity. Frankly The Animated Series and The Arkham Games are still the best versions of the Modern Day Batman. And Both had quite a lot of moments of humor. I dont think any of the Batman Movies have gotten Batman totally right. Burton got the look of Gothem Right. But had Batman doing stupid crap like killing people. Hell Adam West was more in character of Batman than Tim Burton's Batman. Nolan got a lot of things right. Until the third movie where Batman mopes around because his annoying girlfriend dies. Alfred leaves which is totally out of character. Not to mention he had to diminish Batman Villains in order to make it work. Ra's Al Ghul would fine taking over Gothem City to be a waste of his Time. The Comic Book Bane would have Nolan Bane wetting his pants. The Adam West shows represented the 60 Batman very well. I loved back in the 80's when people bitched about this show. Even tho the 50's and 60's Batman where cheesier then Sh!t. Even if nobody wanted to admit it.
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ifilmstuf24 — 13 years ago(January 03, 2013 07:17 PM)
Nolan's films are my favorite of the Bat-Films by far. That's not to say I don't like the others. Burton's films I think still hold up very well for the most part. My biggest complaint is that Wayne/Batman is really sidelined in Burton's (If looked at one way though, this helped keep the character sort of mysterious). Schumacher's are entertaining in their own right. "Forever" is ok, Wayne is given a bit of a character arc which was a nice change, and "Batman and Robin" can on its own horrible merits can be enjoyed (although a controlled substance may be the only way for most people).
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ItsEddieHaskellBeyotch — 12 years ago(July 30, 2013 06:22 PM)
Alot of people may have missed it but Dark Knight Rises made the ultimate tip of the hat homage to this film in its finale scene.
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