I really hated the Guardians in this movie. *spoilers*
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OptimumTaurus — 15 years ago(March 24, 2011 07:29 PM)
It is very odd to me that the Guardians of the Universe are not held responsible in any significant fashion for their role in why things went bad for the Corps in this movie.
If they weren't so full of themselves, they would have seen a LONG time ago how much Sinestro hates them. He barely even attempts to hide how much he despises how the Guardians have turned the GL Corps into trash collectors. It's like they are totally oblivious to the fact that Sinestro doesn't like how they do things. After Sinestro tortured Cuch to death, one of the Guardians even notes to Sinestro it wasn't the first time he'd been excessively brutal. And to rub even more salt into the wound, the Guardian even suggests they could have used telepathy to interrogate, meaning that even if the Guardians couldn't tell Sinestro hated their guts and wanted to rip all their heads off by clear clues, they possibly could have gotten a better idea if they could have read Sinestro's mind! Hal Jordan wasn't a telepath but he definitely had no trouble picking up Sinestro's disdain for the Guardians.
Before Hal Jordan had a chance to say much of anything to them, the Guardians were already insulting him. Jordan defends himself, and the only character who initially respects Jordan at all is Sinestro. That's right, of all the Green Lanterns or their leaders, Sinestro is the first one to see Hal Jordan's immense potential. Sinestro was selfish, thinking in terms of what would benefit him the most, but he was smart enough to suspect Jordan could be the only one capable of thwarting what he was planning. That, I believe, was why he orchestrated the Guardians taking Jordan's green ring and then offering him a yellow one: he knew Jordan was possibly the only one with a clue. Before Sinestro killed all of those GLs who were in space he had respected Jordan better than anyone and the Guardians only respected Jordan after he'd prevented the complete collapse of the Corps.
Even after lots of Green Lanterns went back to Oa and reported that Sinestro had a weapon made from the yellow element, the Guardians just plain didn't want to believe it. They point out how smart Sinestro is, but a complete dummy could have pulled the wool over their eyes. Adding even more insult to the whole thing is that Kilowog correctly points out to the Guardians that they took Hal's ring when they shouldn't have. And then he retracts slightly because they shoot him dirty looks. What were they going to do to Kilowog for telling the truth like that, take his ring away? One of the most loyal and competent GLs and the Guardians would consider punishing him for telling them they are not perfect?
I dunno, this movie was great but really made me hate the Guardians.
Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgment.
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OptimumTaurus — 14 years ago(July 09, 2011 06:29 PM)
Fair enough.
Was I supposed to understand Sinestro as much as I did? I mean, I don't think it was okay he killed all those GLs, but his assessment of the Guardians was pretty spot-on: "a bunch of bickering old bitties" sounds about right to me
Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgment.
-Michael Corleone -
tobba_lobba — 14 years ago(December 09, 2011 12:10 PM)
Sinestro was one of the best lantern agents. Because of his good reputation noone suspected he would betray the core. Everyone thought he was their friend, so they didn't think he'd do anything bad, even if he was a bit grumpy every now and then. Hal Jordan came to the core without any knowledge of who Sinestro was. So he could view him with a new set of eyes. Also, Sinestro confided in him more than the others because he thought Hal would understand his views. And Hal was "the new guy" and also was the replacement for a much loved GL. Of course he wouldn't get a lot of respect out of the other lanterns. Sinestro, on the other hand, was more or less a sociopath and didn't really care about those things. He only thought about what would benefit himself the most, as you say.
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ackmondual — 13 years ago(June 10, 2012 11:28 PM)
to me, it seemed awful risky to put all your eggs in one basket by having the single battery as the single poin of failure, but then again, modern society and military seem to be like that too, so I digress.
I was also disappointed that the Guardians "telekeinetic wind" wasn't enough to stop Sinestro, but if their powers are based upon or similar to the green energy, then go figure. Of course, there's also the "Hollywood reason" for having a final showdown between Hal and Sinestro
ORANGE for all
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OptimumTaurus — 13 years ago(December 24, 2012 03:30 PM)
I disagree with that. Notice how Sinestro got a rather big grin on his face when Jordan told the Guardians they could stick it if they didn't want to accept him as a GL?
I know Sinestro is manipulative and self-serving, but he's also highly intelligent and aware. I honestly saw this as Sinestro seeing Jordan's potential.
Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgment.
-Michael Corleone -
Professor_Challenger — 12 years ago(October 23, 2013 07:44 PM)
One of the things I have always liked about Sinestro was the fact everyone was oblivious to his rather obvious evil. Besides his behavior, this is a guy who is a pair of horns and tail away from looking like a cartoon depiction of Satan andAND his name is Sinestro.
I do realize that the slick black hair, pencil mustache, red/pink skin thing is very much an earth concept of the devil and that perhaps names are translated phonetically by the ring into alien languagesbut it is still like hiring a guy named Evil-o to be a space cop.
It's no wonder Hal is on to him first. When he got introduced to him he should have said:
"Really?? Your best good guy is named
Sinestro
and he has an actual villain mustache to twirl? Who did you hire to babysit your kids.. a sweaty guy with a beard living in a windowless van who's name was
Molestro
?"
Like I said, I am not actually complaining about this aspect of the character because I like it. I was amused at Sinestro calling the Guardians "gnomes" and bitching about them behind their back. It makes me wish he had enough knowledge of Earth culture to call them "smurfs". Nobody ever liked the Guardians anyways. Pretentious blue &%$#@s.
