The problem with these FF movies is not the cast…
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megadoomer — 16 years ago(November 11, 2009 01:08 PM)
I thought the cast and visuals were all fine. The only thing that dragged this movie down was the appalling writing. Of course, if you look back at comics in the '60s the writing was pretty bad, as well, so I guess you could say they were just being authentic.
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Sandoz — 16 years ago(November 12, 2009 09:25 AM)
We're in total agreement, mega It's the appalling writing, as you put it succinctly, that angered me so much about this film. I know that, hopefully without sounding too condescending, FF is ultimately "just" a comic-book film, but that doesn't mean it had to pander to and skew it's approach to what was a likely target audience age of about 15 y.o.
And yeah, the writing in the original comics by Lee would never threaten Shakespeare in a smackdown dramatist contest, but Lee also wrote the original X-Men and Spider-Man stories, and look how well those turned out when adapted for the screen. But it seems the screenwriters who worked on those films seemed to actually possess something that assisted in updating those adaptations for the screen that the scribblers who worked on the FF seemed to be lackingtalent.
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Stylin291 — 16 years ago(February 01, 2010 01:17 AM)
I agree that the Fantastic 4 as an entity was never the epitome of the superhero comic medium.
It's
okay
, I guess, and I liked it when I was in my pre-teen years, but it's a weaker story/concept than Stan Lee's other work(s) Except for Reed Richards. He's totally bad-ass in the Marvel Universe.
That being said, these movies are a MESS! They're horrible; From the casting, to the story, to the lack-of-canon (Silver Surfer loses powers without board, Galactus is a dirt cloud), to the lame effects (Reed's street clothes stretch with him), and Thing's makeup. Awful.
Bad bad bad bad bad. I really think these films are an embarrassment to the genre. -
David_Blue — 14 years ago(April 15, 2011 11:10 AM)
I think your basic point was valid.
I was fine with the Fantastic Four movies being written for young teenagers, but they should have been written for
smart
young teenagers. Especially young boys who would want Mister Fantastic get over his nerdishness and get masterful more convincingly, would want Ben Grimm to be test pilot smart when he knocked off the grumpy act (which he was, so that was good) and would want the Invisible girl to be nicer.
Don't give a number like the hotness of the sun and get it pointlessly wrong. Don't have retarded chemistry 101 jokes - if you must be specific, think of a bright young nerd and get it right for him or her.
Don't dumb anything down, you're making this movie for young people, not stupid people. They may be interested in different things than adults, but their brains work faster-than-that. -
Cinema_Lover — 14 years ago(May 15, 2011 07:48 AM)
Eh, I didn't mind these movies.
By no means are they anywhere near the top of the line superhero films but I'm OK with that because I was never a big FF fan anyway. I always thought the FF movies seemed more for 9 or 10 year olds then 14. I would think 14 year olds would be too cool to publicly be seen watching stuff like this.
I was in my 20s when the first one came out (old enough to go into a theater and watch a movie like this and not worry what anyone else thinks) and I thought it was OK for what it was. The FF films are clearly family oriented, and whatever, let them do it. If they ever treated Spider-Man, X-Men, Hulk or Iron Man like this, then I'd be seriously pissed. Since I've never had much invested in the FF, I really don't care about the childish nature of it all. I've always thought the FF to be one of the campier and all around sillier/boring superhero concepts, so I'm totally OK with them approaching the material like this. I was decently entertained by the FF movies, they both get 2 stars out of 4 from me. The only thing I kinda get is having such a serious character such as the Silver Surfer in a movie is childish as this, but again, whatever. It's the FF, not Batman or Spider-Man. -
Studly135 — 14 years ago(October 12, 2011 09:25 AM)
Never read any Marvel Comics but I've seen every Marvel film and I'll tell you from a movie standpoint, the directing was poor, 3/4 of the cast were poor choices, and the characters created were all stereotypical and flat. These movies are on par With GL. Could have been so much better.
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jpowers4667 — 13 years ago(April 29, 2012 07:12 AM)
These movies are absolutely terrible. A remake with a new cast (especially considering one of them is now Captain America), and DEFINITELY a new director with some new writers is absolutely necessary if we even want to talk about a FF film being decent.
Even with the lousy writing/directing, there are problems in the cast. Let me start with Jessica Albashe is god-awful. Sure, she's great eye-candy, but her appeal ends there. And the actors who play The Thing and Mr Fantastic are terrible here as well. It's basically horrible TV acting at its finest.
And the production values look and feel cheap. It's basically like watching a made-for-TV film.
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bradford-1 — 13 years ago(October 22, 2012 01:40 PM)
Jeez, the grumpiness and jadedness of most of the posters makes me think I saw two different movies! I grew up subscribing to FF comics (1965-1971) and lived through the godawful animated episodes (which DID portray Galactus as he appeared in the books). I found both FF flicks to be exciting, humorous and sort of a throwback to old-time adventure films. Jessica Alba was not my first choice for Sue Storm, (Alicia Silverstone would be my cup of tea) but I can live with her. Has anyone ever seen that cheap-ass, dark, grimy 1994 movie? If you haven't don't putdown the 21st Century versions.
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