How the heck did batman beat captain marvel??
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steve1049 — 16 years ago(November 17, 2009 03:48 PM)
I don't understand how the whole speed thing is up for discussion. Superman freely admits Captain Marvel is faster than him in the Justice series. That's straight from the horses mouth. What Black Adam does against Superman isn't indicative of what Captain Marvel actually has done against Superman. It's not my opinion, it's a reference to fact stated by the writes of that comic series.
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superturbo4 — 16 years ago(November 21, 2009 07:32 PM)
Except that when marvel tries that tactic superman eventualy gets away from marvel and puts him under his own lightning, turns him back to billy and covers his mouth so he cant yell shazam again.
in the past years superman and cap marvel have fought around 3 or 4 times counting movies, comics and cartoons. Each time they fought superman came out on top, so saying marvel constantly beats superman is pretty much a lie.
In recent memory.
Kingdom Come comic book = Captain was pretty much trying to kill superman while superman was trying to reason with captain marvel (marvel was evil at the time) eventualy marvel tried his "shazam! shazam! shazam!" spam tactic and superman turned him back to billy and covered his mouth.
the "Clash" episode in the Justice League unlimited series = Superman seemed more like the evil one in this one, even though there was no real evil one. This was a flat out ass whooping of epic proportions that superman gave marvel, which ended up having marvel using his one tactic that "allways works" against superman, the shazam, shazam, shazam spam, again, superman turned his ass back to a kid and covered his mouth.
the Alex Ross justice comic book = this one isnt really a fight, Marvel was just evil and went full force to try and pretty much kill superman, Superman just grabed the key to the fortress of solitude (big, big ass key) and hit the rampaging/crazy marvel and knocked his ass down, Marvel got up and yelled "Im going to kill you kryptonian!!!!" and launched himself again at Superman but before he got there green lantern stoped him and removed whatever was making him evil and he went back to normal.
And the last time I saw them fight was in superman/batman public enemies and that wasnt really a fight and it ended prematurely, Cap landed more hits but superman landed the allways important last blow and threw him into batmans missile, turning him back to a kid (that made no sense btw, so I dont count this as a fight)
So when you think about it, a lot of Marvel fans say that he "should" constantly beat superman but when they do fight in the comics, somehow superman allways comes out on top.. why? well because he is superman and they wont have superman lose like that. superman is cheap, we all know this. Just look at how Captain Atom and company were OWNING him, badly.. then all of a sudden he decides to make his whirlwind thing and owns pretty much everyone at the same time that made no sense but he is superman and the writers can do with him what they want.. which is why some people dislike the char but he is superman after all.
Another recent fight was between Superman Prime (an evil superman from another dimention that is ridiculously overpowered, cheap, lame writen and hillarious at the same time) against Black Adam (pretty much like Cap Marvel) and that was just embarassing but that doesnt count becase that version of superman was not vulnerable to magic so adam couldnt do squat except get owned.
Here is a recent fight between both of them
Agreed, smartest post in this thread by far!
While Superman is vulnerable to magic, its not in the actual sense of his dying of it flat out. He's just not as invulnerable to anything magically powered. Captain Marvel's powers are related to magic, but he himself isn't a magic caster/sorceror (although his recent role on the Rock Of Eternity taking the wizard's place kinda puts him there now!) just his powers of origin are related in that sense. Captain Marvel is a more physical 'Marvel' hence foe; for Superman to overcome in combat.
Captain Marvel himself probably find Superman a physical match and rivals him in power from a fictional 'super-science' perspective rather than a magical/supernatural one like 'Black Adam' who he is use to fighting as a foe.
Despite his power levels, writers from DC comics rarely put Captain Marvel up against the kinda foes Superman has tangled with that rival if not surpass his own awesome powers.
Captain Marvel can give Superman a run for his money, definitely! But no way would he
own
Superman outright! Hell far as the comic book and graphic novel references go; Captain Marvel was bloody
'owned'
in a fight/battle by Green Arrow in JLA&JSA: Virtue And Vice! When Green Arrow borrowed Wonder Woman's Lasso put it on one of his arrows' and wrapped it around Captain Marvel and asked him who gave him those fancy powers, lol! Can't lie with the Amazon's magic Lasso now can you, a "Shazam" later and even Marvel had just been owned by The Green Arrow! So magic's got its strengths and disadvantages, and Superman unlike Captain Marvel in that situation, wouldn't have that kind of problem!
Gotta hand to Warner's animated shows though. They know how to put Superman in some truly nasty slugfests with heroes and villains!
Superman Vs Captain Marvel
Superman vs Captain Atom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o7jH8iVYUk&NR=1
Justice League vs The Justice Lords
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4B3wwfRF_k&feature=related
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superturbo4 — 16 years ago(November 21, 2009 07:50 PM)
Continued and concluded!
SUPERMAN vs. Mongul (FULL FIGHT!)
SUPERMAN vs. Drax (FULL FIGHT!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jyhYVj1PCQ&feature=related
SUPERMAN vs. Ten (FULL FIGHT!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csIXANkjAfo&feature=related
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Clifford_Starfox — 16 years ago(November 22, 2009 11:46 AM)
Uhhh, dude, just want to point out in your over-excessive posting of Superman fight links; the one you've posted as 'SUPERMAN vs. MONGUL' is his fight against Darkseid from Justice League.
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superturbo4 — 16 years ago(November 29, 2009 05:31 AM)
So what!
First off, if you paid any attention, i said Warner Brothers animation, hence that covers both Superman and Justice League series shows. Secondly, since i'm showcasing the best animated fights from these shows, i'd hardly call any of that over-excessive posting.
Why can anyone on Imdb.com ever enjoy anything without ever bitching??!
Use the sidebar on youtube and find the Mongul fight with Superman then smart guy, Jesus its not rocket science is it?
Stop complaining about absolultely nothing dude!
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P.S. The original link? Its fixed now anyways!
"He is one, we are three, it is the strength of three that will defeat himtogether. General Zod" -
DarkATX — 16 years ago(November 29, 2009 04:40 PM)
OK, for the record don't EVER mix comic book canon with animation canon - they are and always will be 2 seperate things.
They have both beaten each other in the comicbooks which have a far greater and deeper history than recent animation lore.
Superman is DC's flagship character so he is kingand that bias was shown more in JLA more than anything elseBUTPublic Enemies seemed to lean the other way considering 'the castle' move Superman was forced to use.
In Public Enemies, others like Metallo and other enemies showed their true might against Superman. Seemed a little more truer to comicbook lore
Alex Ross when asked about Superman & Captain Marvel stated vaguely "he is the world's mightiest mortal" Actually, it was Alex who pushed to have Capt. Marvel in the story being a big fan of the TV show in the 70's.
If you look at Kingdom Come againSuperman flies toward the bomb - Billy Batson changes back Capt. Marvel - flies towards Superman, catches him and throws him down to the ground with one hand.
So he's just as strong and even faster since he can travel beyond light speed to go to the wizard's sacred mountainalso if you look at the fight Capt. Marvel is brainwashed and just has this weird grin on his face the entire time like he's messing with Supermanenjoying it.
When one fights to kill and a must exert one's self - they seldom smile doing it.
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CyberVerm — 16 years ago(December 06, 2009 12:32 PM)
In that fight Marvel was grining but he was clearly trying to hurt/kill superman while superman knew well that his best shot was to reason with billy instead of beating him because that would take ages
when billy turns back to marvel and flies up superman turns back surprised and slows down and thats why marvel catches him.
Either way, we all know superman wouldnt have died from that bomb blast.. he just wouldnt have and billy did
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Clifford_Starfox — 16 years ago(December 07, 2009 02:00 PM)
First off, if you paid any attention, i said Warner Brothers animation, hence that covers both Superman and Justice League series shows. Secondly, since i'm showcasing the best animated fights from these shows, i'd hardly call any of that over-excessive posting.
Well, yeah, it kinda was.
I mean, yeah they're nice fights and all, but don't really add so much to the topic.
Why can anyone on Imdb.com ever enjoy anything without ever bitching??!
Except I wasn't.
Use the sidebar on youtube and find the Mongul fight with Superman then smart guy, Jesus its not rocket science is it?
Then if it isn't rocket science, why is it you couldn't post the right link or get the title right?
Stop complaining about absolultely nothing dude!
I'm not. You are.
I merely pointed out you made a mistake.
P.S. The original link? Its fixed now anyways!
And it took all of that mindless ranting to get to this single point?
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superturbo4 — 16 years ago(December 08, 2009 04:54 PM)
Bitch, bitch, bitch thats your problem!
Well, yeah, it kinda was.
I mean, yeah they're nice fights and all, but don't really add so much to the topic.
Wrong, they DO add to the topic since its about the, fights supes gets into duh!
Except I wasn't.
They why are you back here whinning about it once more.
Then if it isn't rocket science, why is it you couldn't post the right link or get the title right?
If you aren't complaining, then why are you bothering to bitch about the link whether it was right nor not. As if you really care. Contradicting yourself again aren't we?!
Apparently you being unble to stop complaining on here is 'rocket science' to you at least.
I'm not. You are.
I merely pointed out you made a mistake.
Wow, so immature aren't you. I'm not you are? If your going to point anything out you better learn some manners first junior, and do it more respectfully.
And it took all of that mindless ranting to get to this single point?
Look who's talking about mindless rantings, lol. And you came back for my better interests did you?
Yeah right, just go lie down and rest you little head boy!
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Clifford_Starfox — 16 years ago(December 08, 2009 05:32 PM)
Wrong, they DO add to the topic since its about the, fights supes gets into duh!
No, it isn't. You'll notice the original title of the thread is ''How the heck did batman beat captain marvel??''.
Not, ''How many awesome fights has Superman been in''.
Hence, we don't need to know whose ass Superman can kick, since the main focus doesn't involve any of those characters in the vids posted except Marvel.
They why are you back here whinning about it once more.
Except I'm not whining about anything.
If you aren't complaining, then why are you bothering to bitch about the link whether it was right nor not. As if you really care. Contradicting yourself again aren't we?!
Apparently you being unble to stop complaining on here is 'rocket science' to you at least.
Except I'm not complaining. You seem to be unable to tell what the definition is.
Pointing out a mistake is not complaining; if anything it's trying to be helpful.
And by the way; you ALREADY contradicted yourself by using that ''rocket science'' argument; as is if was something anyone could do so easily, why didn't you do it in the first place?
I haven't contradicted anything I've said here (or very little at least).
Wow, so immature aren't you. I'm not you are? If your going to point anything out you better learn some manners first junior, and do it more respectfully.
I have done so respectfully.
You on the other hand, have marched right into the petty insults.
And yes, you are the one who is complaining, I have said nothing towards you.
Look who's talking about mindless rantings, lol. And you came back for my better interests did you?
Yeah right, just go lie down and rest you little head boy!
And you honestly expect anyone to take you seriously with comments like these?
For one, I'm not the one acting like an immature brat here (and I seriously doubt you are my senior anyway).
You could have simply answered that the link was fixed; instead you decided to rant and rave and make this far bigger than it needed to be.
If that is all, then leave it be.
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superturbo4 — 16 years ago(December 12, 2009 02:40 AM)
And you honestly expect anyone to take you seriously with comments like these?
For one, I'm not the one acting like an immature brat here (and I seriously doubt you are my senior anyway).
Doubt all you want to junior, but it wouldn't make you right though? And after these multiple posts of yours. Who's taking you seriously over my posted links?
Nobody thats who!
You could have simply answered that the link was fixed; instead you decided to rant and rave and make this far bigger than it needed to be.
If thats the way you really feel then you shouldn't have posted a bloody thing towards me doofus! Deleted your posts if your that serious (which you won't do?) but you still lack any decent manners, which is plain to everybody, so quit your belly aching as it isn't clever!
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"He is one, we are three, it is the strength of three that will defeat himtogether. General Zod" -
Clifford_Starfox — 16 years ago(December 12, 2009 07:48 AM)
Doubt all you want to junior, but it wouldn't make you right though?
And it wouldn't make you right either, kid.
And after these multiple posts of yours. Who's taking you seriously over my posted links?
Nobody thats who!
Funny thing is, no-one seems to care about the links either. Nice rebuttal, genius.
If thats the way you really feel then you shouldn't have posted a bloody thing towards me doofus!
Uhhh, why? It's not like I insulted your mother or anything, just pointed out you posted the wrong video, but the way you've carried on you'd swear I was constantly calling you every bad name in the book.
GROW UP.
Deleted your posts if your that serious (which you won't do?)
That doesn't make any friggin' sense no matter how you try and twist it. WHY should I delete my posts? Oh, on that matter ''Deleted your posts'' isn't even the right grammar. Nice one.
but you still lack any decent manners
Oh, the irony.
Although honestly if you think what I said to you was bad, I dunno how you cope with the real world's profanities.
which is plain to everybody
''Everybody'' of course being just you.
so quit your belly aching as it isn't clever!
And yet, even more irony for the day.
Are you done? Because really, I was bored of this ages ago. And if this is all you have to say in your posts then I don't know why you feel the need in continuing.
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superturbo4 — 16 years ago(December 19, 2009 04:57 AM)
My god your so laughable!
Still going on are we. sigh what a loser you are.
And it wouldn't make you right either, kid.
(spits out tea and laughs out loud)
Do yourself a real favor and go on stage with your act? Comedian.
And yet, even more irony for the day.
Are you done? Because really,
I was bored of this ages ago.
Bullsh*t, you ain't that bored if your back here wanting to respond to me so badly you liar. If you were bored you'd have given up, clearly you just like arguing, foolishly i might add.
Jacka$$!
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"He is one, we are three, it is the strength of three that will defeat himtogether. General Zod" -
superturbo4 — 16 years ago(December 20, 2009 08:09 AM)
Behavior yourself you joker!
You practically live on this board and as long as you're here you're always going to respond. don't keep lying to yourself and don't think you won't be back in here replying yet again you pathetic 'sad joke' of a human being! If the conversation so over as you say. Then don't reply back no matter how tempted you are, otherwsie you're a lying piece of garbage thats just wants the last disrespectful word in.
Although you even suck at that don't ya!
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"He is one, we are three, it is the strength of three that will defeat himtogether. General Zod" -
Clifford_Starfox — 16 years ago(December 20, 2009 09:20 AM)
Yeah, yeah I don't give a damn you pathetic little kid. Although you're a fine one to talk about respect after going ape-sh!t on a guy because you can't type in the right words.
And to prove this conversation is really over welcome to my ignore list! I wish I could say it's been fun.
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superturbo4 — 16 years ago(January 23, 2010 03:34 PM)
Yeah, yeah I don't give a damn you
SHUT UP you ignorant fool. I take a month off, celebrated the New Year and a month later you still wanted the last word in, lol! Please don't flatter yourself junior this conversation was over in 2009 on Dec 20th when i left its just your pathetic 'monkey ass' that can't take being owned is all! if there's any kid around here its you (and a very "retarded" one at that). Welcome to your ignore list? Please i'd welcome it that (doubt you'll live up to it though), at least that way you'd finally shut up and spare everybody your foolish and childish B.S. on here.
You've been owned on here so much its pretty useless for you to comeback in here claiming anything other than the fact you're an a$$hle of incredible measure. Lol, your ignore list we'll see how long that last won't we. P.S. don't go commenting in my other threads on here either dipsht.
Idiot! Good riddance to bad rubbish/garbage i'd say.
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"He is one, we are three, it is the strength of three that will defeat himtogether. General Zod"