I think many people missed the point of her Oscar speech…
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Patricia Arquette
raymond-bille — 11 years ago(March 18, 2015 09:16 PM)
Lot's of people are complaining about her speech for equal pay between men and women, by saying that she makes a TON of money as a Hollywood actress and should therefore not have a say in it. But it seems that you people missed the point about Patricia Arquette's speech. Yes, she might make more money than you if you have a "regular" job. But the point and the truth is that the gender wage gap does indeed exist. That is, when it comes to men and women working the SAME job. So again, she may make more money than most other people, BUT men working in the film industry as actors are making more money than Arquette is. Even if they star in the same amount of films per year. Male doctors still make more than female doctors, male teachers make more than female ones, male librarians make more than females, and so on and so on. THAT was the true point of the speech. It's the issue that men are still making way more money than women for doing the EXACT SAME things, and that is what is truly not fair. And that is what feminist people want to see change. We want BOTH men and women to be equal. That is the point of feminism.
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LukeLovesFilm28 — 11 years ago(March 23, 2015 08:28 PM)
Looking for superiority would make sense considering how much they keep feeling the need to bring up the past and remind everyone how evil men were toward women despite the death toll and the fact that men worked harder, more physical and dangerous jobs. I mean, god knows. It's so much harder to sit on your ass in the freezing winter, sewing, cooking or cleaning than being outside in sub-zero temperatures, chopping wood to keep everyone warm.
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LukeLovesFilm28 — 10 years ago(November 17, 2015 03:16 PM)
It's so great to hear women get resentful of birthing children. My mom was forced to live in hell for a couple of years like some WW2 vets in those 9 months and those few hours it took to push me out of her womb. You're right. Goddamn. Men have never suffered. They're only dying, treating each other like disposable pieces of meat while the same liberated women (post-suffragette women) they are trying to protect don't actually do enough to bring their boys home. They didn't raise hell for that like they did to get the vote. So, basically, men were the disposable sex and now, I really can't help but feel like we're the most undesirable sex.
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rascal67 — 10 years ago(November 19, 2015 06:12 AM)
So, basically, men were the disposable sex and now, I really can't help but feel like we're the most undesirable sex.
In spite of what women want to believe about men and themselves, they still find them desirable and are, and always will be needy for them. Tongue in cheek; but to a gay guy like myself, I don't have any trouble finding many men desirableeven if they have been turned into manginas and I doubt many men, would want other men to find them desirable either.
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Nizzemancer-1 — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 09:14 AM)
You'r argument is about as stupid as this: "You have never visited the andromeda galaxy therefor you aren't as great as the aliens living there"
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heyuactor — 10 years ago(November 25, 2015 09:44 AM)
Yes but it must be hard to resist, considering the huge audience. But I agree they should resist the temptation.
BTW in your last line it says 'think-you.' Is that correct as to what Paddy remarked or did you mean 'thank-you'?
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straw_hat_boy_luffy — 10 years ago(January 18, 2016 06:34 AM)
What if they don't do the same work? The same title doesn't mean the same work. Where I work, all of us with the same title are paid the same even though the men are required to do heavy lifting and the women are not.
Even the actors argument doesn't work. Number of movies doesn't dictate pay. Even among men, one well paying movie can net more than several others put together. The entire pay gap argument is based on skewed numbers and cherry picked examples. Look, businesses are greedy. Why would they pay to hire men when they could just hire all women cheaper? I have never once heard this really answered in any satisfactory way. We are just expected to swallow this narrative based on faulty comparisons. We have equality. The problem is that equality never looks as good as you romanticize it because the other person's grass is always greener. -
goerge12344 — 10 years ago(February 23, 2016 02:24 PM)
"Why would they pay to hire men when they could just hire all women cheaper? I have never once heard this really answered in 5b4any satisfactory way"
because the assumption is that women are actually worth less as employees.
it follows that 1 woman is less productive than 1 man.
it follows that a workforce of 10 women cannot match the output of 10 men.
it follows that you would have to hire 11+ women to match the output of 10 men.
therefore, it isnt cheaperyou pay less precisely because you get less.
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holyabdul — 10 years ago(February 06, 2016 07:06 AM)
If you have been out on the social scene, you know that men foot the bill the vast majority of time. So why is that ok for feminists? Men have higher expenses and are expected to pay for family, so it makes sense that they make a little more.