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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 11:08 AM)
Endless Love - '81
I started reading the novel by Scott Spencer. I really should have finished it, but David was so obsessive that it was also a bit of downer. It is a lot grittier than the film, but I still like the movie very much.
The book is also quite explicit in sexual depiction.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 11:44 AM)
I still like the movie very much.
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I do, too. Some of it is over the top and that would be due to Franco Zeffirelli's own self-indulgence. He also directed the 1968 "Romeo and Juliet", so likely he was attracted to the main theme of obsessive love. But the movie is highly watchable. The only scene that makes me cringe is when Shirley Knight (who I do like in general) is watching her daughter and the boy having sex in front of the fireplace. I'm pretty sure I am remembering that correctly. It felt creepy and off.
I would very much like to read the book. I am not surprised that it is more intense than the movie.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 12:10 PM)
That sequence with Knight is lifted from the book and her character also had a thing for David. Hewitt was an absolute honey. He just wasn't really up to it in the acting chops department, though I found him adequate.
The film was perfectly cast, with 2 beautiful young people from its time.
The novel starts off with David accidentally burning down Jade's parents house, after him and Jade were barred from seeing other until School and final exams were finished. He is then put through a grueling legal process which is deciding on whether or not to incarcerate him in prison, or send him to psychiatric care. He comes across as unphased about his fate.
He is not well, even after released. I only read up to the part when he broke into some office. It is all Jade, Jade, Jade he eats, lives and breaths and he just can't let go.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 10:32 AM)
Anthony, I might even go so far as to say that for the 3-4 year period, nobody was ever more beautiful than Brooke Shields was and that includes Elizabeth Taylor. Of course, this is ENTIRELY subjective, but it's something that's being captured or reflected in her eyes. And I am going to risk some hyperbole here, but I think all the dark matter that the pervy, greedy adults projected onto Brooke, her innocence and fundamental sweetness (which she still has an adult) allowed her to transform the darkness into something sweet and light. It's like she cannot see the bad in people. It's all about the eyes. I really don't think Brooke had any concept of how beautiful she was. She is a live action Disney princess. A true innocent. Of course, all her features are stunning, but her eyes are the thing.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 10:42 AM)
And I am going to risk some hyperbole here, but I think all the dark matter that the pervy, greedy adults projected onto Brooke……
Mr. Hutch, Anthony is one of the pervy ones projecting his lust onto her. It is more than likely he wouldn't understand the subliminal qualities you have expressed in Shields. It's barking up the wrong tree.
I wouldn't encourage him. Most with insight on here, know why Rocks makes these posts he does. You are expressing your soul regarding the feminine, from a gay guy perspective.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 11:27 AM)
Anthony is one of the pervy ones projecting his lust onto her.
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You're probably right. And Brooke's innocent quality may have been just the thing that would elicit some perverse responses. But I would like to hope that just as many people would respond with a kind of protective instinct. NONE of the other girls that AR has posted here have brought out any feelings of warmth or tenderness from me. Not to be rude, but most of the girls - or at least the way they posed - just seemed slutty to me. Cold and kind of repulsive. Brooke is the opposite of that.
Maybe AR will be able to explain what he finds appealing about Brooke. That would be great if he could offer a little bit of that.
You are expressing your soul regarding the feminine, from a gay guy perspective.
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That made me feel good, Toasty. I really appreciated that!
Are you at all familiar with Brooke's creepy mother? Actually, creepy is a nice word to describe Terri Shields. Brooke's mother was a greedy, cold-hearted pimp.
If you ever do watch it (and I may have posted it before), things start to get
really dark
around the 12:30 mark, when the dragon mother casually explains the essence of pedophilia. When she refers to her daughter as "appetizing", it's only incredulity and rage that I can feel. She makes Joan Crawford look like Mother of the Year by comparison. And the look on Brooke's face @ 13:00 is nothing short of heartbreaking. She looks so sad! She wants to feel like her mother would want to protect her, but she knows deep down that her mother is completely lacking in the maternal instinct. And Brooke's maturity and being rather serious at such a young age is mostly because her mother was an alcoholic and Brooke had to be the caregiver. And to this day, Brooke will not speak badly about her mother. Brooke knows that her mother was troubled, but she has said that her mother did the best she could. I have also read that Brooke inherited her kindness and her noble bearing (and her looks) from her father, who was supposedly an Italian count.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 11:52 AM)
Maybe AR will be able to explain what he finds appealing about Brooke. That would be great if he could offer a little bit of that.
I wouldn't hold your breath. That has been a large part of my point about AR. He just won't, or can't give of himself in the manner most social communicative people can. I've asked him a myriad of times to offer some brief critique at the very least, on the films he asks if people like. Its about sharing some thought process so others can connect.
Rocks likes the slutty look as it piques his pervy libido. These actresses who pose in the manner that they do, many are from same cabal that then complain about men sexualizing and using them in their industry. What the frick did they expect!!!
Brooke is a rare breed and she was just natural and authentic about it all. She was sensual in
The Blue Lagoon
without exploitative sexiness, she also had a body double for close up nude scenes. I don't recall seeing her in slutty type poses, like those other broads Rocks posts about.
Brooke's mother exploited her daughter and her looks. Today, she would never have gotten away with what she did then. A film like
Pretty Baby - '78
, would never get made in the manner it was today either. It carefully and skillfully presented its milieu, without exploiting its problematic theme. The depiction of turn of the century New Orleans, appears absolutely authentic.
The film is well cast, well acted and is full of atmosphere. It was, and still is, understandably controversial and deservedly so.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 12:18 PM)
Its about sharing some thought process so others can connect.
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I love it when that is able to happen.
These actresses who pose in the manner that they do, many are from same cabal that then complain about men sexualizing and using them in their industry.
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This quality may be the thing that turned me away from women. The ying and yang of the male-female dynamic. My own mother was super needy and as I was consumed by her neediness all throughout my formative years, the whole time I was observing how
men
carried themselves and they seemed warm and playful and easy-going by comparison. Of course, there are women (and mothers!) who are not overly needly and conflicted about how they relate to men, but for better or for worse my mother was not warm or maternal. And I never looked back. I could never get away from a cock tease fast enough. I want to operate on a level field. I don't want to dance back and forth, always guessing. There can sometimes be something in the feminine psyche that is struggling and rears its ugliness via mind games and control. And I am not up for the challenge.
Men are so much simpler!!!
I liked "The Blue Lagoon". It was a low-key, pleasant movie. The kids were both sweet and worked well together. Christopher was a cutie pie and Brooke was effortlessly sensual. Just lovely. And you're right, I cannot recall Brooke ever doing any slutty or tacky poses. Not only would she never have to, but it would have ruined the very thing that made her so special, which was her innocence. Having her pose slutty would have been an obscene travesty.
I have never seen "Pretty Baby". But I really need to. I know what it's about, of course, and I have no doubt that the content would not go over today. I believe there is a scene where the rich men all bid on the beautiful 12 year old Brooke. And all the prostitutes accept their fates so casually. In a way, the movie sounds horrifying. But I do like Louis Malle. By any chance, have you ever seen Malle's "Murmur of the Heart", Toasty? It is a wonderful film.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 12:32 PM)
I could never get away from a cock tease fast enough. I want to operate on a level field. I don't want to dance back and forth, always guessing.
There can sometimes be something in the feminine psyche that is struggling and rears its ugliness via mind games and control. And I am not up for the challenge.
You don't need to be, you are not straight. It's not your problem from a sexual aspect. Its not meant to be understood, and not by males at any rate, even the straight ones. Their douchyness and denseness is base regarding the need for negative femininity as an external. The male/female sexual dynamic I find broken and even disturbing. The wholeness gets separated.
By any chance, have you ever seen Malle's "Murmur of the Heart", Toasty? It is a wonderful film.
I have only seen 3 of Malle's English language features:
Pretty Baby
,
Atlantic City
and
Damage
. I adore
Atlantic City
and it is actually my choice for best picture of 81.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 12:46 PM)
You don't need to be, you are not straight.
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I know. I just think about stuff like this a lot and I wonder if it's this aspect that turned me off women. I really have no idea why or how I became gay or if I was born gay or if my mother's neediness repelled me or any combination of the above and I know it doesn't really matter and I know that I am just very happy that I am gay. I have never doubted once in my life that I wasn't gay. I'm just an analytical person is all. But I ALWAYS find your insights and your overall POV about heterosexuality and homosexuality and how gay men are better integrated than straight men fresh and interesting. I don't believe I have ever come across your expressed ideas about all this every before. I enjoy it when you share here.
I've always had "Atlantic City" as something I need to see in the back of my head. Pauline Kael loved it. I do know that Burt Lancaster won all the major critics' awards that year.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 12:58 PM)
I really have no idea why or how I became gay or if I was born gay or if my mother's neediness repelled me (and she was super needy) or any combination of the above and I know it doesn't really matter and I know that I am just very happy that I am gay.
You came kicking and screaming out that way. There is no other reason or meaning behind it. Straight boys would have had similar mothers and the scary part is, they may have been sexually attracted to them too. Controlling and dominating mothers are really man haters and want to emasculate their sons. Majority would also naturally assume their boys are straight.
My mother appears the tad opposite to yours. What a simpleminded creature she is. In fact, she is the worst of what negative femininity can represent. Its all phony virtue signalling, neediness and putting on a facade of sensitivity and sentimentality that is nauseating and warped in its projection. She was also a smother. She acts like she thinks people think she should act. Absolute zero degree empowerment and no authentic sense of creativity or aesthetic beauty. In fact, both my parents have dragged each other down, due to no accountability or self-awareness about themselves. They are just really there for each other now.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 01:14 PM)
Controlling and dominating mothers are really man haters and want to emasculate their sons.
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This is definitely my mother. Totally emasculating. When I hit puberty, she felt betrayed. It was all about her. This was some super effed up stuff. Again, I wonder if the castrating mother complex has anything to do with my obsession with big balls.
Straight boys would have had similar mothers and the scary part is, they may have been sexually attracted to them too.
This is a highly disturbing thought and one that I have thought about before. I think this is the main theme of Bertolucci's "Luna". And I don't believe it holds much back. BB had some sickness inside him. (not passing judgment)
Reading your last paragraph I was trying to picture what your mom might seem like to outsiders and the first movie character that came to mind was the mother from "Muriel's Wedding". She was a sweet lady, but completely beaten down by trying to be somebody who she wasn't. And definitely no self-empowerment or self-awareness going on here.
My parents fed off each other's worst qualities also. Terribly co-dependent.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 01:21 PM)
The co-dependency is what is both tragic and pathetic. It is clinging and desperation. People always need help at some stage or other, but the extremity of it leaves them lagging behind and also drags down those who may have to be their to pick them up.
I need to see
La Luna
. I also need to see that one with Ellen Burstyn about the American woman in a Greek prison who killed her children. Can't be bothered looking up the title just yet.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 01:33 PM)
"A Dream of Passion" – I am glad you mentioned it because I have always wanted to see it myself. Very much have I wanted to see it. And it has been impossible to find! But, I just now looked it up here and it's now up and running and in English! I am excited! The movie got mixed-negative reviews, but Burstyn's performance was generally regarded as excellent. And I love Melina Mercouri, who plays the actress who plays Medea.
We should both make it a point to watch the film, compare notes.
Golly, the sun is up! I've got to hit the sack!
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(May 29, 2022 02:57 AM)
We should both make it a point to watch the film, compare notes.
Yes, if its on here to watch I shall. However, I won't right away depending on my mood due to the heaviness of the theme.
La Luna
is on here too, so can watch that one as well. I love both Burstyn and Clayburgh.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 01:00 PM)
Their douchyness and denseness is base regarding the need for
negative femininity as an external.
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I feel like you are conveying something quite deep here, but I am not quite getting it. If you could elaborate a little here, I would appreciate that very much.
Is it something like straight men's need to objectify women?
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(May 28, 2022 01:07 PM)
The femininity isn't in balance within themselves. They look for it outside of themselves and from observation, many straight guys just get with women due to a pressured image society puts onto them. They think its what they have to do and is expected. Straight dudes I have been friends with have told me this.
Its about toeing the line and being brainwashed. Straight guys, especially married ones with kids, are also likely to get accepted more easily and get the promotions vocational wise. It is the projected "normalcy".
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Cheeky — 3 years ago(May 29, 2022 12:27 PM)
Men are so much simpler!!!
Not so much when you want a relationship and they're laser focused on getting you in bed
If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana