Come on Steve
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JerryZ111 — 10 years ago(August 23, 2015 08:44 AM)
"Lincoln" was an excellent if ponderous film. The real problem is that Spielberg and screenwriter Tony Kushner, after saying how faithful and accurate the movie was, got the entire last part of it wrong on purpose.
As a Connecticut Yankee, I was offended that Spielberg and Kushner intentionally misrepresented the vote of the delegation from my home state. In the film, two of the three representatives voted against the 13th Amendment. In reality, there were four delegates and they all voted for it. Why make that egregious mistake? For dramatic purposes? What really happened was far more dramatic: The first two votes cast were nays by delegates from Illinois, Lincoln's own state! There was the drama right there. Even I know that. Using another state that voted against the amendment would have been better than misrepresenting a state that voted for it.
Spielberg and Kushner wanted to create tension from the beginning, so they threw Connecticut to the wolves in filming the voting sequence alphabetically by state. This raises another question: Why didn't California go first? In reality, the voting went alphabetically by representative. Historian Harold Holzer told Spielberg and Kushner that they were doing it wrong. The drama was built in. But the two of them thought the audience would be too stupid to follow the actual voting sequence. If that were the case, those people wouldn't have been watching the movie.
Then there was the matter of showing that every seat in the House of Representatives was filled. That wasn't the case. Many seats were empty because the representatives from the seceded states weren't in them. Showing that stark reality either never occurred to Spielberg and Kushner or, again, they just didn't care.
Both men are huge talents. But a high school filmmaking class wouldn't have made the mistakes they did, especially the one involving the Connecticut delegation.
Speaking of schools, Spielberg has sent copies of the movie to middle and high schools across the country without correcting the Connecticut mistake. Now any student who sees it will think that my home state voted to uphold slavery. Yes, filmmakers do take artistic liberties for dramatic purposes, but this one was totally unnecessary.
No, this isn't a documentary, but if you are going to make a historical movie, you have an obligation to get the big and important things right. Steven Spielberg and Tony Kushner didn't. And as a result of the Connecticut controversy, neither they nor the film itself won Oscars. I bet if they had to do it all over again, they would have listened to Harold Holzer. -
ricardosilva77 — 10 years ago(August 23, 2015 01:32 PM)
Disagree with you,completely Jerry. Lincoln, in my opinion, have the worst script in the Spielberg carrer until now.For me, is the unique bad movie until now. Only the actors are great, the rest is BAD. A movie is a movie isnt a documentary.For me, Lincoln is strongly academic and completely restrictive. In one word, awful. I hope that Kushner and Spielberg will make a memorable movie again in "The Kidnapping of Edgardo Montara. I hope so.
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Hamasaurus68 — 10 years ago(September 24, 2015 08:59 AM)
Best actor and production design. Not for best picture or best director or screenplay(only nominated).
That said, winning an oscar doesn't automatically signify excellence. Chicago, at best an OK musical, and the incredibly boring English Patient won best picture all based on a fleeting love affair with the movies actors/actresses or its pseudo hipness. -
jajceboy — 10 years ago(October 01, 2015 11:57 AM)
I thought Lincoln was good, and I liked War Horse too. Bridge Of Spies looks really interesting too. Both Lincoln and War Horse were worthy of the nominations it got. I thought Lincoln would win at least one more, for Supporting Actor
You can't really expect that Spielberg will be making any more adventure or science-fiction movies. He's moved on from that sort of thing and isn't interested in it any-more. He might produce them or supervise them but he won't direct them.
Spielberg does what he does and what interests him. I don't think he cares what some posters on a forum thinks. Every director does movies they want to see themselves, that's how it always has been
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theunopeneddoor-697-442391 — 10 years ago(October 19, 2015 07:41 PM)
Ready Player One is sci Fi isn't it?
Promo for my film about self-injury:
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Negasonic_WoodChipper_Warhead — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 05:48 AM)
Waiting for Steve to scare us again like he did with
Jaws
. He does suspense so well, I need more like that. I know he would enjoy it too because it's been awhile.
That's right! You're about to be killed by a zamboni! -
dalecoleman3 — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 07:48 PM)
I really would love to see Spielberg make an all-out horror film, something intentionally designed to get under our collective skin. I know he doesn't want to make anything "exploitative" in that way but I wish he would reconsider, particularly for a genuinely excellent horror screenplay should one come across his desk.