What a HORRIBLE actor
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zoniax — 13 years ago(March 21, 2013 01:57 AM)
I haven't seen him in anything else, so I can't speak to his range. He wasn't greatin Voyager, but I wouldn't say he was awful.
He hated working on the show, so he didn't try very hard. That's probably why he looked so bored and wooden, although why the producers didn't replace him or kill him off is a mystery if he hated being there so much. -
kimasabe90035-1 — 12 years ago(February 20, 2014 10:12 PM)
He was fine on Voyager playing a dedicated rebel, who hated the Federation. Then he gets trapped with them very likely forever. How jolly could he be in that situation, especially after he was Captain of his own ship
His character was complex and hardly boring, and not one dimensional in the least. -
Lokisgodhi — 10 years ago(September 05, 2015 09:10 PM)
Well that's the thing, was he really that unhappy? I don't think so.
The backstory was he was a Star Fleet officer who quit to fight the Cardassians as a Maquis to protect his planet because the deal the Federation made sold them out. All that the incident that destroyed his Maquis ship did was put him back where he really wanted to be. Back in Star Fleet, serving on a ship. In the Delta Quadrant the Maquis-Cardassian conflict was essentially irrelevant.
Did he hate the Federation? Not really. He was just disappointed with their decision which was politically motivated. Hinestly, it was a better choice than going to war with the Cardassians again over a few planets. It was the right decision for the Federation as a whole, just not for the people on Chakotay's planet.
There wasn't really any negative consequences for he and his crew being on Voyager. Captain Janeway essentially treated them like any other Star Fleet officers. They certainly weren't treated like criminals.
Being demoted to first officer was a minor price to pay for him. He wasn't a captain in Star Fleet before he joined the Maquis. Being first officer on Voyager was a promotion from his previous Star Fleet position. What did have to be unhappy about? There was no point of conflict.
kimasabe90035-1 wrote:
He was fine on Voyager playing a dedicated rebel, who hated the Federation. Then he gets trapped with them very likely forever. How jolly could he be in that situation, especially after he was Captain of his own ship
His character was complex and hardly boring, and not one dimensional in the least. -
AlwaysJustWings — 10 years ago(September 01, 2015 11:15 AM)
Actors are often hobbled by script writers and directors. My suggestion would be to go see Beltran in one of his stage plays he's marvelous.
One of my biggest gripes about Voyager is the way the writers and/or directors seemed to focus all their time and energy on one character at a time for an episode, and everyone else in the cast would be stuck with poor lines or a lack of creative direction.
I'm currently rewatching the series and seeing the same pattern again - this episode, the doctor is amazing next episode, he's sort of lost, even if he's the focus of a scene, and it's Tom Paris that shines. Next episode after that, they're both sort of hazy, and Chakotay is on point for the whole episode. On and on and on.
I have to wonder if it wasn't deliberate, to keep the viewers from seeing any one character/actor as "the star" of the show. The weird thing is, the person who seems to be on the receiving end of all the great lines and creative direction is almost NEVER the character who is the actual focus of the episode.
Just as an example - the episode where B'Elanna is going to have a thought engram wiped because her violent thought supposedly triggered violence in a telepathic population. So it stands to reason that B'elanna is the focus of the episode, or perhaps even Tuvok.
Yet for that episode, and several after, the only character who seemed to be shining, both in lines and in "how" they acted, was Seven. Now granted, her character was newly introduced and so would obviously be getting a lot of attention but to the point where it seems like all the "good" was saved for her character, while the actual focus of each episode was largely ignored?
It's one of the strangest dynamics I've ever seen in a TV series. It's like the entire production says, "let's pour everything into this one random person for this episode and everyone else is sort of just there for background noise, including the character that's the actual FOCUS of the episode."
I don't get that.
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jasoedwards — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 01:15 AM)
Interesting analogy of Voyager. I didn't experience it that way however. That is the idea though of certain episodes. It's about character development. There were so many moments where they interacted so BRILLIANTLY together lile when Janeway & Chakotay were left on that planet after contracting that pathogen/disease. Some episodes jist didn't work and I always skip over them.