Beltran Hated Voyager?
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workingonzen — 15 years ago(June 03, 2010 07:19 PM)
Personal quote from his bio page
"I thought Star Trek: Voyager was punishment for everything in my life up till that point. Thanks, dear Lord for the Star Trek gig."
Lord people, please read the bios before you start telling everyone what someone you don't know thinks. -
saul_rothman — 14 years ago(November 17, 2011 08:48 PM)
Personal quote from his bio page
"I thought Star Trek: Voyager was punishment for everything in my life up till that point. Thanks, dear Lord for the Star Trek gig."
I've re-read that quote a half-dozen times now and I still don't get it. It seems like the two statements completely contradict each other.
The only things I can think of are
A. The second sentence5b4 is sarcastic.
B. In the second sentence, he is thanking God for allowing him to (for lack of a better phrase) wash away his sins by performing penance.
C. The first sentence is how he used to feel; the second is how he feels now.
Does anyone know what he meant in this quote?
Saulisa
Logic is our best defense against The Experts. -
covenant12 — 13 years ago(July 03, 2012 01:39 AM)
Here's the interview where he says it.
http://voices.yahoo.com/video/robert-beltran-interview-764019.html?cat =60
You saw Dingleberries? -
Ndirsch11 — 14 years ago(July 26, 2011 02:16 AM)
Of all the cast members of Voyager, the two that were most screwed over by "the powers that be" were Robert Beltran and Jennifer Lien. So, if anyone had legitimate grievances to air, it would be them. Lien's too shy to say anything publicly about her dismissal from the show. But Beltran's not afraid to let his opinion be heard.
It's well known that Robert Beltran doesn't like the science fiction genre. That's his prerogative. In the case of Voyager, I think he just got fed up with having to repeat the same lines ("shields down to 20% captain!") over and over again. Beltran's criticisms of the Voyager producers/writers began sometime around the sixth season and then intensified by the seventh season. As far as I can tell, he was quite positive regarding the show and his character during the early seasons. That makes sense. Chakotay was used very regularly in the first three seasons. He was a major character with a lot of lines. But by the time Seven of Nine came on board, all the attention of the show seemed to focus on her. And when we got to season six, Chakotay practically ceased to exist altogether. You could replace him with a plank of wood in those last two seasons and it wouldn't make a dime's worth of difference. Chakotay's little spat with Janeway in "Equinox Part II" was the last useful thing he ever did. A once promising character was wasted.
Here's what Beltran had to say about the episode "Fury" and what the writers did to the character of Kes:
"What they asked her to do with her character, I didn't understand. I think our writers are that far from brain damaged. I don't get them. But we were happy to have her. She's great. We love Jennifer. I wish she had never left the show; she's a really fine actress. But it was just the same old indication of our writers and producers having their head firmly up their collective ass. Sorry, kids. You see, this will all get back to them. That's why I'm saying it. That's fine. Maybe they'll let me go by the middle of the season. I'll be a regular on ER or something."
And here's Beltran on the Voyager series finale, "Endgame":
"I was right, [the writers] are idiots. So I feel vindicated but unfortunately, you're going to have to sit through it. I was very disappointed. [] From mid season onwards I kept waiting for them to start making a move towards wrapping up some of these story arcs, but they didn't.[] [This] was meant to be about nine people on the ship, trying to get through some really extraordinary circumstances. Frankly, I'm not sure what it ended up being about."
^^ I'm glad someone on the cast spoke out against those two episodes. "Fury" and "Endgame" are really two of the worst Voyager episodes - a betrayal of everything the show and the Star Trek franchise was supposed to be about. Rick Berman and Brannon Braga settled for crass commercialism in a desperate attempt to boost ratings and public interest. But it didn't work.
I can't fault Beltran too much for his comments. He was on to something. I still believe Voyager was a very good show. But that finale was a travesty.