Why is he so often compared to Lynch?
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IEatWords — 11 years ago(January 14, 2015 12:50 AM)
It's the perfect way to describe it. Crash is the definition of trying too hard. That's what is irritating about the man and his fans. He's got this big ego that doesn't come close to matching the product he puts out, and his fans act all uppity as if his blunt films are too hard for critics to understand. It's the opposite Cronenberg is a glorified B movie maker, which would be more tolerable if he didn't think so highly of himself.
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srinath_r_htanirs — 11 years ago(January 14, 2015 04:39 AM)
Crash doesn't try too hard. In fact, its actual theme doesn't cry loud and resides within inner layers. That's a sign of having a clear idea of what it is.
Just because his works are indie or that he works on a low budget doesn't mean he makes B films. He started out with a few high concepts (even they were social commentaries), but his accomplished films were deep lessons of the human mind and its interactions with the environment. No B filmmaker can execute complex themes and provide for character development in the way he has done so often. And atmosphere in his films is genuinely elite. Just because you keep crediting such a tag to him doesn't mean it will eventually ring true. You're only disregarding his acclaimed and accomplished works of a level, that not all top filmmakers can achieve, let alone B filmmakers. -
srinath_r_htanirs — 11 years ago(January 14, 2015 04:49 AM)
I don't get that trying too hard part, all auteurs try their best to give quality films, why should it be a criticism? And, Crash seemed to me as something that came naturally for Cronenberg.
I liked Cosmopolis as well, I think it's one of his best and incredibly under-rated. I'm guessing you'll like Maps To The Stars as well - it's a dark satire on Hollywood from a superficial perspective and it has got more to it. It is surprising to see the film get wider acclaim than expected. -
franzkabuki — 11 years ago(February 11, 2015 06:54 PM)
"But that phallic obsession"
You may not like it, but considering the source material and who Naked Lunch is about, this so-called "phallic obsession" certainly isn't out of place. And the film generally does an exceptional job at visualizing Burrough's f-cked up world.
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IEatWords — 11 years ago(February 12, 2015 03:31 AM)
I take it you like juicy phallic imagery? Cronenberg does it in other films too. I've already said Naked Lunch was one of his best, despite the cocking about we're talking about, and the dida0sappointing Scooby Doo ending.
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franzkabuki — 11 years ago(February 12, 2015 06:48 AM)
So this is your idea of a reasonable retort to my pointing out that "the juicy phallic imagery" in Naked Lunch goes with the territory and therefore your whining about it isn't really much valid? And with the exception of Viggo Mortensen's briefly exposed member in Eastern Promises, I've never noticed any intrusive "juicy phallic imagery" in any other Cronenberg movie; I take it you must really dig it if you keep seeing it everywhere.
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JohnQuincyPublic — 11 years ago(February 12, 2015 05:48 PM)
And with the exception of Viggo Mortensen's briefly exposed member in Eastern Promises, I've never noticed any intrusive "juicy phallic ima2000gery" in any other Cronenberg movie; I take it you must really dig it if you keep seeing it everywhere.
The parasites in
Shivers
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Rabid
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franzkabuki — 15 years ago(December 13, 2010 10:25 PM)
Lynch bore a definite similarity to Cronenberg during the early stages of his career when he had this Cronenbergian obsession with disfigured flesh. Later not so much.
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Curzon_Street — 13 years ago(April 28, 2012 12:31 PM)
The comparisons are all superficial. They're both named David, they're from the same generation, they've both made indie films that are unusual, they aren't easily pigeonholed, and they attract a cult following.
http://ow.ly/1iTyiC
Both Cosmopolis trailers
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CurzonStreet — 13 years ago(July 22, 2012 04:03 PM)
Lynch mention from Twitter:
gZa @The_gZa
COSMOPOLIS - Cronenberg's most surreal film since Naked Lunch. Imagine a Lynch take on American Psycho set mainly in the back of a limo. 4/5
And probably because of DeLillo rather than Cronenberg, a Mamet comparison:
Matthew @rapidfirestudio
Cosmopolis feels like Cronenberg took acid with Mamet
Norman Shetler ?@batesman
Having finally seen all of Cosmopolis in a concentrated setting I can finally say that it's my movie of the year so far.
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Xeokym — 13 years ago(April 29, 2012 12:57 AM)
Maybe because they both implement surreality to various degrees in most of their movies, although I'd say Lynch more so. I like both directors but I never compared them (in my own mind) before, nor had I heard anyone else compare them until now. I can see why, in a way - they both have used a lot of non5b4-talking moments that were nonetheless extremely intense.
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: They're also very NOT like each other in many ways.
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Fearnotthezone — 11 years ago(March 21, 2015 06:34 AM)
there is a connection to these great directors, cronenberg being my favourite.
after going over all the differences they share or the opposite direction they take whether mental, visual, technique or even choice of genre, the thing that unites them both is FATALISM or rather the portrayal of its hold on their films.
each has his way but both drive u5b4s down that same road