Charlie Sheen may have been Corey's abuser on Lucas
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Clusium — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 06:02 AM)
He specifically said the "the way he (Sheen) af1c84fected other people I know,"
Whether or not Sheen was Haim's abuser, he is definitely no angel. He has been arrested time & time again, for drugs, beating up his wives, etc. We all know by now that Haim was sexually abused by someone in the film industry, & Feldman was making the point that it has taken all this time overcome what had happened to him, & how Hollywood just let him go after making so many movies for them.
By contrast, Charlie Sheen(through the advantage of being the son of a very huge Hollywood personality), has had a very successful career in both TV & movies right down this very day. This despite the kind of crap he causes other people.
Actually, Corey Feldman made a mistake there, when he said that both Sheen & Haim started the careers together. Sheen had been doing movies for a few years, by the time Haim moved from the GTA to Hollywood.
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Lets_talk_about_that — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 01:40 PM)
(1) But if the quote was simply Feldman comparing Charlie Sheen's career trajectory to Haim's i.e. "Charlie Sheen and Corey were both really messed up but look how Charlie Sheen is still super successful while Corey Haim was blacklisted,"well that doesn't explain the fact that Feldman has a strong dislike Sheen. A neutral person would be happy for Sheen that he has managed to be a success despite his inner struggles.
Feldman specifically says he has a problem with Sheen because of how Sheen has affected people he knows, then he immediately qualifies that statement by naming Corey Haim.
So the question is: What did Sheen do that Feldman feels "affected" Haim?
(2) Martin Sheen was never a HUGE actor, I don't know why you seem to think that.
(3) Sheen had been in movies before 1986, and so had Haim, but 1986 was indeed when both of their careers started to take off and they started to become really successful & famous.
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Clusium — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 07:53 PM)
Feldman doesn't list Haim as being one of the people affected by Sheen. He only sites Haim to point out that they both started their careers around the same time.
Maybe he(Feldman) & Sheen just never got along. Besides that, on the show
The Two Coreys
, Haim accused Feldman of being friends with his molester. That quote from Feldman's book does not sound like they were friends.
Yes, Martin Sheen IS a huge & widely respected actor, with a resume going all the way back to5b4 the '60s.
Sheen had started being in films in the early '70s. Haim was in a Canadian TV show called
The Edison Twins
, in the early 80s, & then when he went to Hollywood, he was in
Silver Bullet
, &
First Born
, in 1984.
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Lets_talk_about_that — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 08:14 PM)
Okay, where to beginLOL
First of all, you obviously have not read Feldman's book. Feldman lists THREE different men who had sex with Haim when he was a young teen. The first was the unnamed person on the set of Lucas whom Haim allowed to sodomize him. The second was talent agent Marty Weiss. And the third was "Tony Burnham"/Dominick Brascia. Both of the latter occurred around the time of making Lost Boys. When Haim made that accusation that Feldman had "allowed" it to happen and was still friends with the guy, he was referring to Dominick Brascia - NOT to the first guy who abused Haim on the set of Lucas. You need to learn more about Haim's history of sexual abuse if you wish to contribute to this thread in any kind of way.
Secondly, you say Martin Sheen was huge, I say he was not a HUGE star. Yes he was a known actor of the time period but he was not HUGE.
Third, 1986 was when Haim and Sheen's careers began to really take off. They both began STARRING in movies - not just co-starring - and they each became household names. Charlie starred in Lucas, Platoon, etc. at this time, and Corey starred in Lucas > Lost Boys > License to Drive which gave him great recognition. Of course both acted before that time, but they both became extremely successful "stars" around 86-87.
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Clusium — 12 years ago(December 12, 2013 05:27 AM)
You are right. I HAVEN'T read the book, & do you want to know what's more? I'm not going to, either. You see, Feldman's book p-ssed off Haim's family, & they have asked all his family & friends on FB not to buy CF's book, & since I knew Haim before he became a famous movie star, I promised them that I wouldn't.
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Lets_talk_about_that — 12 years ago(December 12, 2013 12:07 PM)
That's all well and good, but if you make pronouncements about the sexual abuse endured by b68Haim, don't you think you should know the relevant details first? It's very hard to take your statements in this thread with any credence since you seem to know so little about the actual situation.
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Clusium — 12 years ago(December 12, 2013 01:13 PM)
Because simply reading into a quote made by CF about Charlie Sheen, doesn't prove anything, especially since Haim's family completely denounced Feldman for writing this book.
Up until you provided that link a few posts back, I have never read about Sheen being interested in guys, regardless of how addicted to sex that he is.
As you mentioned in the title of this topic thread:
MAY!!!
CF doesn't come right out & make 5b4a direct accusation of Sheen being the one who abused Haim.
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Lets_talk_about_that — 12 years ago(December 12, 2013 02:22 PM)
Yes, that's why I wrote "may" have abused Corey Haim. I don't know if it was Sheen, I'm certainly not 100% convinced it was him myself. But I think he is the strongest contender - not just because of that one quote but for many reasons that I've spelled out in this thread.
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clarastoria — 12 years ago(December 19, 2013 03:21 PM)
Hi guys, been reading this with a lot of interest. Not sure i have anything new to contribute to the discussion, but does anyone have a link to the interview Feldman gave, where he spoke about Charlie Sheen and Haim? I would love to read it. Sorry if you already provided it, I've scrolled back and forth but I can't see it (maybe i missed it).. Geez i can't wait until it comes out who actually did this to Haim. The world is a messed up place and it just breaks my heart. Peace.
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Lets_talk_about_that — 12 years ago(December 19, 2013 09:04 PM)
Feldman's quote about Sheen was published in a lot of different articles across the web. Here's one of them:
http://news.moviefone.com/2011/03/07/corey-feldman-charlie-sheen/
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Lets_talk_about_that — 12 years ago(January 12, 2014 11:52 PM)
Well I will say that I've noticed that Feldman often overstates or exaggerates, letting his emotions dictate his words - sometimes at the expense of accuracy. A couple examples:
A few years ago when he was doing interviews proclaiming that "Pedophilia will always be the #1 problem in Hollywood," his words would lead people to believe that pedophiles were lurking around every corner, that the highest echelons of directors, producers, and studio heads were in on the 'pedophilia conspiracy.' There is much talk of this type of thing on message boards piggy-backing off of Corey's comments, with people eager to believe that Spielberg, Katzenberg, etc. are all participants or part of the cover-up.
Yet when we read Feldman's book, we realize that Feldman's perpetrators are not high placed individuals in Hollywood - these sexual abusers who are elaborated on are very low-level sleazebags and hangers-on: hardly the bigwigs who would justify such a claim that "The #1 problem in Hollywood will always be pedophilia."
Another example of Feldman's emotions getting in the way of the facts are how, in order to emphasize his point about how awful sexual abuse of kids is, he'll state Haim's age as younger than he actually was, sometimes referring to him as a 10 or 11 year old when he was abused, when in fact Haim was a 13 or 14 y.o. teenager when he was sodomized on 'Lucas.'
The whole statement about Corey Haim's abuser being a "mogul" may just be another Feldman overstatement said in the heat of one of Feldman's diatribes. If it
was
Charlie Sheen who Feldman was speaking about, the fact that Sheen was the #1 paid actor on television could have led Feldman to have made such an overstatement, especially since Feldman's acting career has been so far from mainstream success for the last 20+ years, which undoubtedly causes some resentment and contempt.
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Clusium — 12 years ago(January 13, 2014 06:17 PM)
If it
was
Charlie Sheen who Feldman was talking about, the fact that Sheen was the #1 paid actor on television could have led Feldman to have made such an overstatement, especially since Feldman's acting career has been so far from mainstream success for the last 20+ years, which undoubtedly causes some resentment and contempt.
You raise a good point there, tourmalyn, regarding the possibility of resentment on Feldman's part towards Sheen's success. However, taking that possibility into consideration, why not a further possibility, that if it was Sheen whom he was implying was Haim's abuser, could that not be possible resentmen-related too?
Sure you realize, there must be some good reason for the fact that Haim's family really did not appreciate Feldman's book!!
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PrincessMoFo — 12 years ago(December 24, 2013 09:41 AM)
While I haven't read the entire convo between you two and this may have been mentioned already but one of the things Denise Richards accused Charlie Sheen of when she divorced him was finding child porn on his computer of young males..
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Clusium — 11 years ago(July 02, 2014 01:57 PM)
I've said the same thing here quite a few times on this thread: That regardless of how beep up Sheen is, there is noway in hell, he was Corey's abuser.
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