Choosing to do heroin…
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jnorgle — 12 years ago(February 06, 2014 08:05 PM)
I can imagine what would happen if I had heroin in front of me. It wouldn't matter all the stories, all the literature I'd read. I'd just be curious.
Pretend something pithy is here.
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Torrible_2013 — 12 years ago(February 06, 2014 08:32 PM)
Here's what will happen. The first time you use it, you'll have an experience like never before the perfect euphoria/happiness. Each subsequent time, your euphoria would be less and less. If you're like most addicts, you'll end up chasing that 'perfection' to the point of having your mind altered to persistently crave that substance. Does that sate your curiosity? Or would you still be curious because you haven't actually personally experienced that for yourself? Curious enough to risk being addicted?
What the OP is asking: why would someone think it is worth risking it all his life, his sanity, his dignity, his career, his loved ones and all his other goals in life just for this one moment of artificially perfect happiness? Is so, what the hell is wrong with that person? -
suza271 — 12 years ago(February 07, 2014 08:35 AM)
PSH was doing oxy before heroin. Most ppl who are oxy addicts eventually switch bc it's cheaper. He probably did it bc he thought he could get high. He was first snorting heroin, so he was most likely snorting oxy. Generally, as a progression of any legal or illegal drug you abuse, you end up injecting it if you can get the needles.
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LaZboyfriend — 12 years ago(February 08, 2014 01:27 AM)
So, doing heroin or drugs in general equates with "experiencing life".
I've got news for you: Pumping chemicals into your system so you can enter an altered state of consciousness is the exact opposite of "experiencing life".
It's checking out of it.
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tex1978 — 12 years ago(February 08, 2014 01:45 AM)
I, for one, understand perfectly what you mean. I have also never done any drugs and don't plan to ever try them. Some people just seem unable to deal with daily life so they turn to drugs forwell I don't really know what for.
I have never understood the attraction and hope I nda0ever do. The problem I have is we should be telling kids to stay away from drugs instead of showing so much sympathy as if it wasn't a bad decision to make to begin with. Every drug user has to start with the decision to get high. I am sure most addicts did not intend to become addicts but the first decision was the worst decision. For some people, it is easier to just leave it alone.
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benmasta — 11 years ago(October 13, 2014 08:52 PM)
it sucks that people like the OP are the reason drugs will ALWAYS be a huge problem in our society5b4.
when people completely turn away from drugs, whether its understanding or accepting, it does not in any way "lead by example" for those that do drugs.
Kids only see the failure druggies in high school, so they only see it as bad.
As life goes on you start to find that very "normal" people do drugs regularly. People you would never expect in a million years, and many of them are quite responsible users as well, usually having habits over decades, kept in secret.
Basically, no one starts with heroin. People try heroin because they are done with trying to squeeze happiness out of their crappy life, when heroin will literally have you enjoying scraping beep out of toilets.
A lot of naive kids dont realize that being on drugs is not obvious. People think that if u do a drug, you get weird, or you sway, or have weird looking eyes, or just act "drugged out" but this is only true for high doses, binges, and or first time users. Most drug users can be high and go to work and not lose any work competency. Its only people whove never used drugs, or barely have, that think that any kind of impairment is in any way like alcohol.
ill say it now, no other drug impairs you like alcohol. The only thing that makes you lose control, even like 10% as much, is like PCP or like bath salts. Heroin will not make you pass out when u use it. Its only super junkies that have been shooting all night, or d16d0oing a huge dose that pass out. Its stupid, because you basically are just sleeping while u are high instead of enjoying it. Only super retard junkies do it.
anyways, dont try drugs if you dont want to. But the only real reason to not try drugs, is because people like you villify it so much and make it seem so much more dangerous than it is. If drugs were freely available, i think people would be surprised at how willing to work normal jobs to buy their drugs legally instead of living in crime. -
LaZboyfriend — 11 years ago(October 13, 2014 09:44 PM)
Let me get this straight you're coming to the board of a relatively young actor who needlessly died from a drug overdose, leaving behind 3 children under the age of 10, to state the following line:
people like you villify it so much and make it seem so much more dangerous than it is
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Gee, I wonder how your common sense became so impaired
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benmasta — 11 years ago(October 14, 2014 10:07 AM)
so you missed my point entirely, nice
i am not advocating for drugs, but the fact that they are so villified in society, causes people like PSH to do their habits in secret, which often leads to exess (due to guilt)
the issue is that people dont understand addiction and drugs. People like you have not experienced anything, see it as a simple choice not to do it. While this may be true early on, some people are plagued with anxiety and social problems that they turn to drugs for help.
People like yourself are too ignorant and unwilling to learn why people cant just quit, and why people are often destined to run into a drug problem later in life.
The funny thing is that people think its the drugs that kill people, when in reality2000 it is always the stupidity of the drug user. I will guarentee you that PSH did not die of just a heroin overdose.
Its something like 95% of all overdose cases regarding heroin is becuase the mixed it with another drug, and like 75% of that is alcohol.
A lot of crazy junkies do what is called a "speedball" in which they mix cocaine and heroin together and inject it. This is basically a death sentence, and only those who are retarded go this way.
Basically what im saying, is that drugs can be used responsibly, and them being illegal and so villified has caused more problems than it has fixed. Look at spain/portugal and how they dont prosecute people for having drugs, only for selling. How come the amount of drug users didnt increase? Less crime too, way less stress on the financial state of the country.
Drugs will ALWAYS be used by people. Its jsut retarded to fight this neverending and expensive battle for no reason other than to tell people to stay miserable and have no spark of joy or excitement in their beep life.
If it were legal and taxed, there would be no depression/recession right now, and many useless drug addicts would be working and living normal lives, because then they can use/get their drugs in the open and do not have to subject themselves to the criminal aspect of drugs.
I will tell you right now, the people who DONT want drugs legal, are the Illegal operations and criminals. They have the most to lose. They will no longer be able to string people along, rob people, cheat people, and make ridiculous sums of money for doing no work whatsoever. These are the people that would be hurt by legalizing drugs, not the public. People are just so afraid of things they dont understand, that they create hate towards it so they can stay ignorant.
Its also funny how the majority of street drugs are just offshoots of prescription medications. Just they are available to people who don't have insurance and/or millions to pay a doctor for them to find a legal reason to give you the drugs. Nowadays they barely even prescribe stuff because of all the bad publicity. Blame drug users if you want, but its the sellers that ruin north america, not the users. Legalizing drugs would do nothing BUT attack the sellers. Users are only dangerous when their sellers beep them over and they become desperate.
I know its a waste of time to try and tell you this stuff. Your brain has been wired to hate things without truly understanding, because you see only the absolutely worst of it. I'll tell you though, there are a lot of people that go about their drug habits very responsibly, but then have their lives ruined just because they HAD the drugs on them. After you get stuck and labeled as a criminal, its hard to be much else. So they stay as users and sometimes become sellers, all because they were in posession of personal drugs. -
SimplemindedSociety — 12 years ago(February 19, 2014 03:37 PM)
'I'm sure when the OP experiences more life he'll start to understand.'
That's a crock.
It doesn't even take life experience to have common sense. And nobody ever said a given star is intelligent. I have life experienceand not good experience so let's hear what we don't understand. -
FlyingSaucersAreReal — 12 years ago(February 08, 2014 01:45 PM)
"Mr. Brownstone"
I get up around seven
Get outta bed around nine
And I don't worry about nothin' no
Cause worryin's a waste of mytime
The show usually starts around seven
We go on stage around nine
Get on the bus about eleven
Sippin' a drink and feelin' fine
[Chorus:]
We been dancin' with
Mr. Brownstone
He's been knockin'
He won't leave me alone
I used ta do a little
but a little wouldn't do
So the little got more and more
I just keep tryin'
ta get a little better
Said a little better than before
I used ta do a little
but a little wouldn't do
So the little got more and more
I just keep tryin'
ta get a little better
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Suboxone — 11 years ago(December 22, 2014 03:14 AM)
That's a myth. There is no chasing that first high. The first high is exactly the same as all the other highs. The only drug where the first high is better then the rest is exctascy. With everything else like pills,meth,heroin,cocaine the first high is exactly the same as the rest. In fact the first time you do heron or cocain could be with less pure coke or heroine and then the second time you could use pure and you would gets higher
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vicksta10 — 11 years ago(February 24, 2015 02:51 AM)
I'm not sure where you got the information that "chasing that first high" is a myth, but I can tell you, absolutely, that it is not a myth. The "chasing" is a result of the user's eventual tolerance to a drug, in which larger amounts of said drug are needed to attain that original high (which they never do). I'm not talking about the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or even the 4th use-the chasing comes after however long it takes for an individual to reach his/her own level of tolerance/addiction. I'm guessing by your User Name that you may understand what I'm saying. Hope this helps debunk that "myth".
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Suboxone — 11 years ago(March 14, 2015 01:41 AM)
I got that information from being addicted to heroin. There is no chasing the first high. My 5th high was better then my first. What you are describing is tolerance. People have to use more to get that same high they had before but there is no chasing the very first high. The first time you get high is exactly the same as the 50th. I'm not talking about tolerance. You do get to a point where you have to inject two packs instead of one. I'm just talking about this whole weird "very first high is always the best and you'll never get that again" because that just isnt true. You could do some dirty weak black tar dope the first time and then get some really good pure stuff and it'll be better then that first time you did it.
