First Paul Walker, now Peter O'Toole, all the legends are dying!
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lillybellbell — 12 years ago(December 30, 2013 04:56 PM)
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jeffer23
12 hours ago (Mon Dec 30 2013 03:47:28) Flag | Reply |
IMDb member since November 2013
Maybe you need a dictionary.
Legend: an extremely famous or notorious person, esp. in a particular field.
Paul Walker may not be as good of an actor as Peter O'Toole, but he probably is a lot more famous in "current" times.
There is no need to insult Paul Walker.
No one is insulting Paul Walker, but just because he is dead doesn't mean any less that he wasn't a legend per se, and even less "extremely famous" that can go to the likes of Brad Pitt (in terms of fame and notorious roles such as Tyler Durden for example). It can be argued that Paul Walker was a recognizable face because of the Fast & Furious franchise (because there are indeed lots of people don't recognize his face), but a legend? No. It's like saying Daniel Radcliff is a legend because of Harry Potter, whether he is alive now or if he were dead (touching wood), he'll be mostly remembered for being Harry Potter, part of one of the most popular franchise ever, same could be said of some actors of Lord The Rings etc. Paul Walker was famous for Fast & Furious, and even still in current times that doesn't make him a legend, he was part of one the most popular franchises in current times, and one knows there are many, from the ones I've mentioned to others such as well Twilight. James Dean has done only 3 films in his whole life and is still remembered to this day 50+ years later, from old times to current times. That is a legend. Same goes for Marlon Brando which is the only actor on this earth who mannaged to place the acting field bar in "before Brando/after Brando" Marilyn Monroe is another extremely famous one, 50 years later, and her ghost/archi1c84ves pictures are running the latest Chanel N5 ad on our TV screens lately here (in Europe)
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jeffer23 — 12 years ago(December 30, 2013 06:01 PM)
You said
Tragic loss, but Paul Walker a legend? Come on now
You seem to be hung up on what type of movie or product someone has produced. It doesn't matter whether an actor had movies rated at 100% on Rotten Tomatoes or B-Movies. Being a "legend" is totally unrelated to the quality of the product.
As a perfect example, the movie "Legends of the Fall" has a character named Tristan who is characterized as a legend,
but he isn't a hero and actually had multiple failures in his life.
He is a legend because he is remembered based on these events that occurred in his life.
I won't waste any more time because it is not my intention to appear as a troll or clog this board with posts that are not related to Peter O'Toole. -
smakdaddy99999 — 12 years ago(December 15, 2013 11:38 AM)
I like Paul Walker a lot, but calling him a legend is stretching it a tad bit, don't ya think?
Peter O'Toole was a legitimate film legend.
And of course Nelson Mandela pretty much puts all of humanity to shame. No other human being in the past 30 years has accomplished more than Mandela. With the exception of Mother Teresa. -
lmtopeka — 12 years ago(December 15, 2013 12:44 PM)
Paul Walker's death is infinitely more sad. He died at 40 with tons of life and work ahead of him so who knows what he may have become. O'toole is one of the all time greats. He lived a long life and leaves behind a body of work that is very special. May they both rest in peace and be remembered for not just what they did but who they are.
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lmtopeka — 12 years ago(December 15, 2013 01:52 PM)
I said who knows what Walkers work would have been like and what legacy he might have left and yes a man with a child who dies at 40 is infinitely more sad than a man who has live a long and successful life and dies in his 80's. I don't care if you want to take me seriously.
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ameckert2000 — 12 years ago(December 16, 2013 06:12 AM)
Ok. Walker's death was tragic because he was young, not because he was a brilliant actor. He also seemed like a nice guy. He was a good looking guy and in lots of blockbusters that the MTV generation really liked.
However, you can't say "well, although he really only did Varsity Blues, Pleasantville, and all The Fast and The Furious Movies, I'm sure his Lawrence of Arabia is right around the corner"
By the time O'Toole was 40, he had already done Lawrence of Arabia, The Lion in Winter, Becket, and many many many others. Not to mention all of the plays he did here and in England. I mean, Lawrence was his first big film. I believe he was only in his 20s when he did it.
Walker's death, sad because he was young and popular.
O'Toole's death is sad for us, but he REALLY lived a great life. He had wonderful and talented friends, and left behind a ridiculous amount of brilliant films. It's tragic not because he didn't have a long life, but because he was the last of that type of actor. -
rogerscorpion — 12 years ago(December 15, 2013 01:59 PM)
Did you really mention O'Toole & Walker, in the same breath?
That's like the Emmys making a big fuss over Cory Monteith, while virtually ignoring Jack Klugman, who gave us 5 decades of fine work.
Carpe Noctem! -
BlondeVixen — 12 years ago(December 15, 2013 03:27 PM)
Never got into the Fast & Furious movies, so didn't know who Paul Walker was until after he died. His death was tragic, he was nice, generously gave to others, young & good looking, but he was not a movie legend.
Peter O'Toole, absolutely a legendary actor. One of the greats, Oscar nominated many times, a long career.
sad year though