I'm oblivious to all the hate.
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bishops64 — 13 years ago(May 03, 2012 02:02 PM)
"Moron, Liberal douche,hypocrite, idiots" So if someone disagrees with you, you resort to name calling. Classy. You just completely negated any point you were trying to make by describing a person(s) with the same insulting language that you say liberals use.
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catpkmcd — 13 years ago(January 18, 2013 01:00 AM)
' Keep believing what you hear from your studies. That is classic liberal.'
HAH!
That is legitimately the dumbest thing I have ever read.
Studies also show that the earth revolves around the sun, but obviously that must be liberal propaganda.
I'm not entirely sure what point you were trying to make with that comment. That liberals prove things through studies, whereas you would be happy to believe whatever it is Fox bottle feeds you without any sort of back-up evidence? I'll assume not.
I'm not quite sure you accomplished what you had set out for with that comment. Nice try though, and thanks for the laugh!
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Mellow-Fellow — 11 years ago(January 21, 2015 01:56 AM)
Many of these so called studies are biased since they are created by the people funding such studies. Most often studies and polls quoted the most often are the most unreliable crap. I typically side with the left on a good number of things if that matters since what I am saying is typically a republican retort.
Just a small amount of research will show you most often these studies consisted of very few people or the circumstances were such that the outcome could only favor those who funded the study and want certain results. They are practically purchased statistics. Take the often quoted 40% of firearms purchased are from "backdoor" channels. That study was before the NFA, and the question given to the few hundred phoned in participants was phrased in such a way that asked for their opinion on something rather than the fact of their transaction. People just assume it's a national study with thousands of participants, even the president quoted this so called study, which is now almost 30 years old and had something like 290 participants. The specifics of the study should be mentioned in cases where they are used to make your point, and they often are. When they are not mentioned, be wary. -
Dirk_Diggler1 — 14 years ago(June 29, 2011 04:31 PM)
"How many people brought their own photographer to NOLA or Haiti?"
What's wrong with a person wanting to show people the good things that they do? It doesn't make them any less passionate about doing good deeds.
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filmscholar35 — 14 years ago(July 02, 2011 12:31 PM)
Like I said way before, the conservatives are the ones he mainly gets criticism/hate from, because he is so vocal about his politically liberal views, so they attack him.
But, that is NOT the only reason.
It is also that he is just so unfriendly to the public.
And it can seem hypocritical to be such a humanitarion and then be so rude to or even violently assault people for approaching you. I am reminded of a John Lennon lyric (where he was being critical of himself): "You say you're looking for a world of truth, the leader of a big ole band. You wanna save humanity, but it's people that you just can't stand."
As I stated before, I think Penn is a great actor, but he is a very unlikable guy in person, and not just because someone disagrees with his politics. I've personally seen him be very rude to people that admire him very much.
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hccman2000 — 10 years ago(June 17, 2015 11:33 PM)
Filmscholar35,
I really appreciate your candid, honest, and unbiased information. Regardless of your political views and personal views, it would be a much better place here if people could do what you did here and even in your post-posts. We all need to pay attention to the truth and do our research to wherever that may lead. Being unbiased is one of those things I really look up too in an individual. When I s2000ee posts like yours, which is not too often, subsequently I believe there is hope for mankind. IMHO, we all would get the correct info we were searching for by being unbiased. After a few decades of hearing and reading how nasty Penn is most of the time in public, then after a while you really have to wonder if that is the truth. I really believe you, when you stated in so many words of seeing him personally acting like a jackass to people. It is not hard for me to imagine, even if I like the guy, act in a negative demeanor because I can see the truth in your posts. You can see it, the truth that is in people's words, but IMO you have to be unbiased and reserve your opinion until you have done your research into someone or something in general. Now, I understand there are trolls and truly arrogant people out there, but that is too easy to spot and that is not what I am speaking of. Be kind to one another and do your research while being unbiased to get to the truth. I think a lot of the arrogance is obviously from not having a proper education, however I am not implying all people need college degrees or that you cannot develop remarkable things without a good education, but it sure helped me and I encourage all to strive to be the best individual they can be. See Film, your words certainly inspired me and I would probably not agree on much with you in other areas of common topics, such as politics, but I guarantee you that I could sit down with you and have a great conversation without getting into an argument. You really hit me with the honestly and truth, and it made me feel good for a minute. I had to remark and commend you. I apologize for the over exemplification, however I wanted to get my point through and be clear as possible. Thanks for sharing and have a great day even though you posted about 4 years ago:)
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Drebin31 — 15 years ago(January 16, 2011 11:34 PM)
Most people who don't like him feel that way because he is a disgusting human being. Like someone above implied, he is the quintessential hypocrite, often talking about equal rights, but then engaging in a violent and reckless lifestyle.
If you want specifics, here you go.
He has beaten his wife, attacked photographers, broken their equipment, been sued, been fined, been ordered to do community service, been arrested for assault, been imprisoned, and been charged with a felony.
He also receives negative attention for his outspoken and extreme political opinions, including heavy criticism of George W. Bush, which he often voices at extremely inappropriate venues such as the Academy Awards. He believes he is an authority on important social and political topics, even though in reality he is an actor/filmmaker, a job far less difficult or significant than those of the people he criticizes, and one that has nothing to do with what he talks about.
He also receives criticism for publicly supporting and seemingly becoming friends with socialist and communist leaders such as Cuba's Raul Castro and Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, going so far as to meet them in their respective countries - a hypocritical notion in itself given his decision to continue living in capitalist America so he can make millions of dollars.
In addition, while Penn was acknowledged for his help during Hurricane Katrina, many speculated it was all a PR stunt because he brought his own photographer.
However, in spite of all that, a lot of people vehemently defend Penn simply because they believe he is a great actor. In my opinion, being such a disgraceful human outweighs whatever talent he has prentending he's other people. He's 50 years old, but he still behaves like a child. Just last year he faced more jail time for an altercation he had with a photographer.
One final thought is - also in my opinion - I think Penn is the most overrated actor of all-time. I usually get weird looks when I tell people this in real life because, being a bit of a film buff, people are surprised at that claim and always tell me I'm just letting my opinion of his psychotic personal life affect my opinion of him as an actor. But I'm serious. I'm not saying he's a bad actor. Just overrated. I laugh when I hear people call him the greatest actor of our generation. His style of acting is very over-the-top and melodramatic. He portrays extreme emotions very well, but I rarely see him acting "natural," which to me is the sign of a good dramatic actor. His characters always look like Sean Penn playing a character, like I can see right through his acting and in7ecstead see him going through the motions of reciting the words he memorized and adding emotion to it. I like to say he's on one end of the acting spectrum, with Spencer Tracy on the other - Tracy being a man who always looked so natural and subtle in his expression. Penn is the antithesis of natural and subtle.
R.I.P. Leslie Nielsen
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bishops64 — 15 years ago(January 17, 2011 10:29 AM)
Don't watch his movies or post messages on his message board if he sucks so bad. When I don't like someone I don't waste any time time on them. You've written a book practically on someone you clearly dislike, Why? Everything you've said is opinion, innuendo,rumor and gossip, you have not stated one fact. Opinions, rumors, etc, are not fact. Since you don't like/hate Sean Penn I wonder why you've made such an effort to tell us. Why wuld you even care enough to post a message. I like him I don' care whether you like him or not. Do yourself a favor move on, you'll feel better.
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Drebin31 — 15 years ago(January 17, 2011 05:38 PM)
bishops, I was trying to answer the original poster's question as comprehensively and intelligently as possible, without resorting to the normal shouting and "SEAN PENN SUCKS!" responses typical of IMDb. He asked why don't people like him, so I tried to include every reason I've ever heard (it's not my fault there's a lot - that's Sean's fault). Actors' message boards aren't only for fans. In fact, on this website most threads under any given actor or film tend to be negative. There's nothing wrong with that.
You said don't watch his movies and, for the most part, I don't. But I try to be a film buff, so it's inevitable that I'm going to come across some of Penn's movies as I learn more about the art and talk to people about it.
Everything you've said is opinion, innuendo,rumor and gossip, you have not stated one fact.
I acknowledged that some of what I said is opinion - particularly my last paragraph - but there's undeniably some facts in my post. It's not a rumor th5b4at Sean Penn was charged with a felony for domestic assault against his wife Madonna. That's well-documented. It's also fact that he was in prison for 33 days in 1987. And that he met Hugo Chavez in person. Why are you saying those aren't facts? Saying he's a bad person because of them is opinion, but their existence is fact.
R.I.P. Leslie Nielsen
1926-2010
You will be missed.