Pretending to be Gay,yet Ritter seemed gay. Inside joke?
-
SMH-1982 — 13 years ago(August 20, 2012 04:57 PM)
I think you read him completely wrong; there was nothing about Ritter, the person, that came through his character which would "seem gay." The question is - how many gay people do you actually know? Do they all share these same mannerisms that you speak of?
The only time that Ritter appeared to be gay was when he was "acting" as a gay character: Jack Tripper(when he had to pretend to be one), and Vaughan Cunningham in Slingblade. At no other time did he come off as being a homosexual, especially with his so-called mannerisms.
Is there any chance you are simply projecting? -
SimplemindedSociety — 13 years ago(August 21, 2012 12:03 AM)
Others posters have said the same thing about Ritter, so there are plenty of people sensing the same thing. Then you self-assuredly deny the probability, and you top it off by asking how many gay people I know. How many do you know in order to understand what I even mean,aside from gay men who act like Richard Simmons?
If you think gay mannerisms are represented by the way Ritter acted as the 'gay-character',that is a cartoon-version of a gay man. I sense you have no perception of the nuances of homosexual mannerisms, but you feel so confident about your naive intepretation of ga2000y man. Don't confuse your self-confidence with being socially inept,regardless of how much encouragement mom & dad instilled in you. -
SMH-1982 — 13 years ago(August 22, 2012 02:55 AM)
SimplemindedSociety said:
Others postes have said the same thing about Ritter, so there are plenty of people sensing the same thing.
Can't recall anyone else saying the same, and so what? Does your failing logic tell you that if other people see the same thing you do, that if they jump on your bandwagon, it somehow becomes true(more likely to be)? If you want to play that game then I guarantee that the majority of people would be on the other side of the fence, i.e. they would say he very much acts like a heterosexual man. So you lose here.
SimplemindedSociety said:
Then as you as you self-assuredly deny the probability, you top it off by asking how many gay people I know. How many do you know in order to understand what I even mean,aside from gay men who act like Richard Simmons?
'Self-assuredly deny the probability' - haha, good one. It always makes me laugh when people attempt to "sound smart" with their argument, only to have their own reasoning backfire on them. You equally "deny" the chance of him being straight, right? The man was married twice and had multiple children no way he could be straight! If these facts alone aren't enough to convince you that the probability of him being straight was greater than him being gay, well then maybe you should take a refresher course; specifically a math that deals with probability.
And yes, I asked you how many gay people do you know for a reason. I knew exactly what you meant with your original statement, hence my following up on it. You simply proclaimed that his "mannerisms" made you think he was gay; there was nothing aside from this one thing that you used to further your argument. So my questioning was based on the fact that you appeared to be so knowledgeable(stereotyping of course) when it comes to gay men and their mannerisms which they all possess right?
SimplemindedSociety said:
If you think gay mannerisms are represented by the way Ritter acted as the 'gay-character',that is a cartoon-version of a gay man.
Not sure about this one. You start with "if" and continue the sentence in the forming of a question, but don't really ask one? Are you telling me something here? Regardless, my answer is yes - in Three's Company many of the mannerisms he had were cartoonish, but that was ONLY when he was pretending to be gay. When he was acting as Jack Tripper, straight, he appeared as a genuine heterosexual male; and before you ask, I know this because I am one. In Slingblade he played the role completely opposite of Three's Company one. It is a night and day difference, and the best examples of him "acting gay."
SimplemindedSociety said:
I sense you have no perception of the nuances of homosexual mannerisms, but you feel so confident about your naive intepretation of gay man.
The 'nuances of a homosexual mannerisms'? Do you even read the junk you write? Once again your stereotyping is getting in the way of your own words. And let me ask you once again - how many gay men(or women) do you personally know? I have more than one gay friend, and none of them share the exact same mannerisms. My "interpretation" is built on reality and what I see before me - not what society tells me. Some of the guys I know are flamboyant where others are not; they cover both ends of the spectrum and everything in between. So that likely means you have NO gay friends, and your own perception, excuse me, interpretation, is based on what you see on TV: Richard Simmons. It's ironic that your own arguments are being used against you huh?
SimplemindedSociety said:
Don't confuse your self-confident with being socially inept,regardless of how much encouragement mom & dad instilled in you.
My self-confident? Oh, you mean self-confidence right. I am pretty sure I wasn't confusing my confidence with my so-called social inabilities; thank you for clarifying that though. And what joy! You conclude your ever-convincing argument with a mommy and daddy insult. You sure put me in my place with that one. -
SimplemindedSociety — 12 years ago(August 27, 2013 02:26 PM)
'He also played the part of a very convincing, staunch Baptist minister, as "Reverend Fordwick" on The Waltons, in which he "seemed " to really be one. Sooogoing by your idea of "logic" I guess we are also to assume that he was really an extremely religious "holy roller" in his personal life as well, huh?'
'Ormaybe the man was just a fine and versatile actor who was, oh yes acting'.
..here comes the new age "going by your logic"/ "it's called acting" -retort. My comment has nothing to do with his talent.
DO you know what an inside-joke is? Get your comparisons straight & parallel.
The difference is that Ritter does not particulary seem like a reverend in real life, but he did seem gay. I am not referring to him acting gay when Mr. Roper was in his presence in order to fool him, but Ritter in REAL life.
On 3's Co., Ritter was very much playing the hetero guy in heat playboy characterizationthat is the irony I am referring to. -
dbrockskk1 — 10 years ago(September 11, 2015 10:44 AM)
You poor little thing! You're all alone in this! Have you ever thought of getting away from the computer once in awhile? Don't see Brokeback! You can't handle it! I checked your posts. They're 99 percent negative. Do you suffer from clinical depression?
suzycreamcheese RIP Heath Ledger 1979-2008 -
DrinkFromTheSameFountain — 12 years ago(August 27, 2013 06:53 PM)
As a gay man with a few years under my belt, I can say that never once did I get the impression that John Ritter was gay. I do think that John was definitely of the "lover not a fighter" variety, and I think that's what is confusing to you. I am betting he was a gentle, kind man in real life - a "softie" if you will - but that has nothing to do with one's sexuality. Do you think all gay men are "soft"? Do you think all straight men are, ahem, "tough"? Perhaps overly "self-confident", as you put it?
No, I think that John loved the ladies. -
kenzie1214 — 12 years ago(September 06, 2013 05:01 PM)
DrinkFromTheSameFountain I agree with you wholeheartedly. I worked with John in 1985 and he was a beautiful, kind man who was always pointing out to people what was great about them. Although he was a little bit Jack Tripper personality wise he was actually very quiet and introspective on some days. He was never inappropriate but was quite a flirt too. Just an all around wonderful person. Sorry for rambling, just so grateful to have known him and so sad he is gone. Blessings to you.
-
-
I_Love_Hutch — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 08:26 AM)
I get how people might see John Ritter as gay. But in my gut, I don't think that he was gay. I think he was just a total softie and I think that he was probably very much in touch with his feminine side (perhaps more so than his masculine side), and, of course, his most well-known contribution was for portraying lovable Jack Tripper, who pretended to be gay. But I think people read him wrong. My hunch is that John Ritter LOVED the ladies, probably completely preferred women to the company of men.
Warren Beatty in "Shampoo" without the smirk.