ET/Hepburn Media circus–It's over the top!
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Emma Thompson
CountessGaviota — 15 years ago(August 10, 2010 09:17 AM)
Does anyone have the link to the actual interview in which Emma Thompson is "quoted" dissing Audrey Hepburn? All I can find are zillions of reports about the interview. Knowing the integrity of the media, and how some actors hate giving interviews because they are virtually always misquoted or taken out of context somewhere along the way, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the quotes weren't in some way exaggerated or twisted to be more sensational.
Even if they are correct, it's one opinion given in the context of discussing a2000 remake of a film. Thompson has a different slant and approach to a classic film. It will be interesting to see what she comes up with.
This whole thing reminds me of when John Lennon was taken to task for having compared the Beatles to Christ, which was not what he was actually doing. Audrey Hepburn is held in such adoration by her legion of fans, not a word of criticism is allowed against her without causing a media storm.
Audrey was a great movie star with a unique elegance and beauty, who put in some brilliant performances. Top of this list, in my opinion, were Two for the Road and Wait Until Dark, the ones perhaps least fitting of her usual image. The Children's hour was good, and How to Steal a Million was a fun romp, though not brilliant. However, for my taste, Breakfast at Tiffany's was tripe, and (in my personal opinion) she was just "alright" in My Fair Lady. As an icon she was/is amazing and beloved. As an actor she could be very good, but not perfect. She was human, after all. A fact about her that I think is sometimes forgotten.
Thompson's comments may be her opinion, or her opinion skewed by the press. Either way, it doesn't detract from the merits of Emma or Audrey as actors. Each was/is brilliant in her own way. -
Mayesgwtw39 — 15 years ago(August 11, 2010 04:30 AM)
Emma Thompson should have better things to do than disparage the work of a very good classic film actress.
Whatever her opinion, fewer and fewer people are watching women oriented films like they did when Hepburn was doing her best stuff ('Sabrina" and "Roman Holiday" have moments Thompson never bested) and all we need is some haughty actress telling folks that Hepburn wasn't great and turning them offwhen she has likely never seen them. Cause if she had, she could not say that.
Audrey won an Oscar too, Emma, and totals a much more watchable legacy than you have racked up"Howard's End" notwithsranding. -
mmitsos-1 — 15 years ago(September 19, 2010 11:23 AM)
SorryThompson easily has racked up just as much of a "legacy" as A. Hepburn has. Thompson has two Oscars to her credit, one of which is for acting, making her the ONLY actor or actress to have ever won for both writing and acting.
And, as far as her acting credits go, Howards End was sublime, as were several other of her films, including Remains of the Day, Wit (probably the most REAL performance of a cancer patient ever portrayed), Sense and Sensibility, Love Actually (albeit a small part, moving nonetheless), and A Winter Guest.
I like Audrey Hepburn as well, but her range was quite minimal, as charming as she was. Yes, she was quite good in Roman Holiday and Wait Until Dark, but I still tip my hat to Thompson over Hepburn in terms of sheer acting talent.
I love both actresses, and if you read the entire article, she was absolutely dissing Hepburn's SINGULAR PERFORMANCE in My Fair Lady, not her entire career. She admitted that she was even familiar with her entire careershe was simply familiar with My Fair Lady and thought that both H's performance, as well as the whole film itself, was overproduced, and "twee".
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tigerbos — 15 years ago(September 23, 2010 02:05 PM)
I agree with your post. I'm certainly sick of the rabid posts by A. Hepburn fansshe certainly was limited in her range, even she stated this herself. It looks like the only reason 16d0people come on here anymore is to knock Emma's opinions or politics which I find shockingly insipid and lame. Emma Thompson is one of the greatest actresses ever and I certainly have my own life and don't need anyone, not even her, to dictate to me my taste in film or politics. Everyone else needs to move on and get over it!
I think she's the saddest girl ever to hold a martini. -
mmitsos-1 — 15 years ago(November 10, 2010 11:56 AM)
Oh My Goddovstar-1, now you really don't know what you're talking about. Emma was TWEE???? in Much Ado? That was a great movieat least her part. I 2000will say that Michael Keaton's performance was a bit out of it, and Keanu Reeves was his usual extremely wooden self, but the rest of the cast was fantasticESPECIALLY Emmaand that is not because I like her. I like her, perhaps, in part, BECAUSE OF her performance in this film. Her interpretation and reading of her part were both spot on, but also quite accessible. I thought she brought everything to the character, and interpreted the gamut of emotions perfectly.
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ikke_for_let — 15 years ago(August 14, 2010 04:45 AM)
There is nothing intelligent about liberals. Liberals disregard feedback from reality entirely. Which makes them much closer to being insane than intelligent.
Here is a link to a study that shows that Liberals know less about basic economic issues than Conservatives. Not exactly a sign of intelligence. Quite the opposite actually.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703561604575282190930932 412.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
But I guess if you really don't understand much of anything, it's easy to believe that you are smart. Sort of like the self inflated confidence of eight year old children.
We conservatives just shake our heads of the incredible ignorance of liberals. That ignorance being so profound that we know that even beginning a serious discussion with liberals is futile.
On top of having to suffer through liberals lack of coherent thought patterns, we also have to endure their constant touting of their own mental superiority. Again it's like eight year old children. Confidence based on a solid foundation of ignorance. -
mmitsos-1 — 15 years ago(August 15, 2010 10:13 AM)
For every study you want to copy and paste in an IMDB board about the magic of Conservatives' economic policies, I have a hundred to cite you about the complete ills their policies have perpetrated on this country for the past 100 hundreds. Just look at the GDP.since FDR, at most recent, jobs and economic growth as a percentage of the GDP has ALWAYS, ALWAYS, systematically outperformed under Democratic presidents, AND THEIR POLICIES, than under Republican presidents and policies. You're a moron who DOESN'T LOOK AT FACTS, JUST AS ALL OTHER REPUBLICANS ARE, if you're going to deny this.
We've had to SUFFER THROUGH EIGHT YEARS OF W., AND TWELVE YEARS OF DISASTROUND EOCNOMIC POLICIES AND LACK OF JOBS UNDER BOTH REAGAN AND BUSH I.you're the pot calling the kettle black. It is your religious, nothing-based-in-fact ilk that houses the "minds" of Sarah Palin, Reagan, John Kyl, Boehner, and the whole lot of nutcases.
Having any serious discussion with a Republican is completely useless, since you live in a dreamworld. You all think you're going to earn $1,000,000/yr some day, and therefore, you begin voting against your interests from early on, when the tax cuts for the rich and trickle-down economics (the only economic policy Republicans believe in) won't even help you.
You're all idiots. You're not even taken seriously by intelligent, thinking Liberals. Yes, I do call my liberal friends the intelligent ones, because we read, and we deal in facts. Your party is extremely divisive, believes basically that only w2000hite men matter, has no regard for any measure of safety nets for people in need, but certainly gets involved in areas of people's lives in which they have no business getting involved (e.g., privacy rights), and are simply dangerous for this and any other country. The right wing of this country has gone so far to the right that the so-called "moderate democrats" today are conservatives in any European country. And, your sick party wouldn't even welcome Nixon at this pointyou've all become so sicko right-wing in your thinking that it's actually quite comical to observe. -
!!!deleted!!! (33407653) — 9 years ago(April 15, 2016 01:41 PM)
I came upon your post by accident and, even though it is six years old, had to comment. Great post and oh so accurate. About three years ago a study came out (That would be about 2013 or so before you or the previous poster wrote their posts) that a study of liberals and conservatives found that, on average, liberals had IQs that were ten points
higher
than conservatives. It was something we liberals always knew but now it has been verified. Of course it is something conservatives will never know because they don't read, don't believe in facts, and live in a bubble of dubious reality that prevents logic or facts from ever getting in, -
thereseuphemiaabernathy — 15 years ago(August 15, 2010 05:38 PM)
DITTO THE OP.
I'm just eyerolling at all the ridiculous, angry, and wholly inapplicable criticism being hurled at Emma all of a sudden, clearly due only to some personal opinion she stated. Heaven forbid she not worship a certain actress. I do think highly of both Audrey and Emma, and for crying out loudget over it. Sheesh. I didn't see the actual interview either, only a direct quote or two someone posted here. I'm not going to start thinking poorly of Emma just because we may not share the same opinion of Audrey Hepburn's acting.
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simplemines — 15 years ago(August 15, 2010 06:40 PM)
I completely agree. I think I might've seen one movie I didn't like Emma Thompson in; in the vast majority, she's simply superb!
I also like Audrey Hepburn, who was wonderful in several movies.
I think both were (and are) beautiful, interesting-looking, talent actresses, but like with their looks, they're talented in different ways. I can't see them swapping out roles. They're both wonderful, but in different ways.
(A genera comment: as for the politics, anyone who brings that crap into this discussion is a loser. And I AM a conservative! I'm sick to death of EVERYTHING being politicized, so out of any human decency you might retain, shut UP with the freaking politics!!) -
gabbieispretty — 15 years ago(August 24, 2010 09:03 AM)
Emma can think whatever she wants but it's disrespectful to bash a legend the way she did. Besides Audrey always has been and always will be beloved and Emma's fans need to accept the fact that when she bashes an icon it's going to come back at her. If she can bash Audrey then why can't Audrey fans bash Emma? At least Audrey was unique, Emma is a good actress but not better than Meryl Streep,Judi Dench,Helen Mirren and doesn't really stand out in any way
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Nolegirl97 — 12 years ago(January 29, 2014 07:04 AM)
Everyone has an opinion on the icons of the Golden Age of Hollywood. Just because you find one of them overrated doesn't make you disrespectful, it makes you honest.
Personally, I love Audrey Hepburn and Emma Thompson both. And they both have similarities in my opinion. Both are excellenb68t actresses- not the best but still enjoyable- but have even brighter personalities. Audrey Hepburn is obviously known for being an angel that lived to help others, and Emma Thompson is known to be a hilarious personality that doesn't quite give a beep Both are unique and both are special. But to cut down Emma Thompson because she expressed her opinion (an opinion that has been expressed before, too) is just stupid.
But then again, I bet all of your critics are posting on your IMDB board about how disrespectful it was for you to cut down Emma Thompson. -
ar87 — 15 years ago(August 31, 2010 02:41 AM)
John Lennon was making an accurate point about how each generation cares about Christianity less and less, and that whether it was The Beatles or television, kids were letting their Bibles grow dust and were worshiping other things.
Emma Thompson was caught accidentally letting her arrogance come out in full form. She forgo2000t to press that button that all actors have that hide their true feelings about other actors. That diplomatic button. She revealed that she thinks the world of herself, and can't fathom why anyone in the world of acting could be more popular or revered than her.
There's no comparison. And John Lennon was a genius. Emma Thompson ain't no genius though I'm sure she thinks she is. That word gets thrown around way too much. I'm highly selective of it. Einstein, Newton, Lennon, McCartney, Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Shakespeare. No Emma Thompson. -
CountessGaviota — 15 years ago(August 31, 2010 07:05 AM)
Well, I was hardly comparing Emma Thompson and John Lennon ((apples and oranges). I was referring to the reaction of the media and some of the public. Might it not be just a little presumptuous to assume to know exactly how she thinks and feels and why she said something? I was saying you cannot always trust the media to quote something correctly, much less portray someone's words in the sense in which they meant them, especially if they can create controversy. Controversy seems to be far more important than accuracy. And even if she was being as she is accused, why is it so easy for us to jump on the bandwagon of hate and criticism? I think what she may have said is very tame compared to the viciousness it stirred up, and that saddens me.
