I also hate it when people say he was guilty.
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Roscoe Arbuckle
everyone_hates_raymond — 19 years ago(January 13, 2007 03:12 AM)
Most of the talk comes from people who only want fiction to stand in the way of facts. I saw a doco called "Hollywood Justice" which was about the Arbuckle case in 1921, I was disgusted with this woman Maude Delmont. It also said that there were doctors who heard Virginia Rappe exonerate Arbuckle of the crime, but the Judge refused the doctor's testimony and labeled it hersey.
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everyone_hates_raymond — 19 years ago(January 24, 2007 03:44 PM)
Thanks again September-Storm. I've always believed Arbuckle was innocent before I ever really started researching it. I saw a doco called "Hollywood Justice" that was the one that pretty much cleared him for me.
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deborahwakid11 — 19 years ago(January 24, 2007 10:54 PM)
Hi, September Storm:
I can vaguely remember seeing the documentary. Virginia Rappe was this very tiny, dainty-looking girl, while Fatty was naturally a very big man. The papers at the day painted this picture of the giant Fatty crushing this poor, unfortunate fair flower to death by raping her. The truth was that Fatty hadn't been anywhere near the girl during the whole party.
The only thing Fatty was guilty of was throwing a party in San Francisco on the wrong date, at the wrong time. It's a matter of justice, not how long ago it happened as well. The reason Cheryl Crane wrote "Detour" was because some people still believed she had been found guilty of murdering Johnny Stompanato, when, in fact, she was acquitted. One wonders if DNA evidence had been available back then, what might happened. I think Fatty was punished for his so-called "wild lifestyle" than for what happend to Virginia.
From what I've read about Virginia, she was not a very stable person. There is a strong probability she suffered from mental illness. It is known she had at least two abortions, and her death was caused by a botched abortion. As far as I can recall, no one had touched her that day. How a botched abortion could have been presented as rape, I don't know. There is always somebody trying to make a name for themselves on a high-profile case.
No matter how long ago it happened, the truth should come out and a person's name be cleared. Arbuckle came from a large family. and he probably still has living relatives who have to hear the same kind of garbage Cheryl Crane probably still has to hear to this day.
Oh, and by the way, the case began on Labor Day weekend in 1921, which makes it nearly 86 years ago. Four hundred years ago would be 1607, around the time Jamestown was being settled. Just clearing up the math.
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phoenix-216 — 17 years ago(August 24, 2008 09:13 PM)
Actually, Virginia Rappe died of an infected bladder.
There is no way an abortion can rupture a bladder without rupturing
the uterine wall.
The myths of Virginia's abortions came from the smear campagn the
defense attorneys waged against the victim. It was common practice
until recent years to demonize the victim.
Bear in mind, Virginia was the victim, and Virginia's name was completely
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MrBook_ — 13 years ago(May 06, 2012 08:17 AM)
Oh, and by the way, the case began on Labor Day weekend in 1921, which makes it nearly 86 years ago. Four hundred years ago would be 1607, around the time Jamestown was being settled. Just clearing up the math.
Wow Do you think that guy really thought it was 400 years ago? I figured it was just a joke.
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karenlynn1 — 19 years ago(January 24, 2007 08:28 PM)
FYI, CourtTV Crime library has the full
truthful
story about Arbuckle, and when he was proven innocent. It was interesting to read, and really paints a valid picture of those events.
Apparently, Virginia Rappe had a botched abortionor something like that.
anyhow, here's the link: http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/classics/fatty_arbuckle/1.html
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padawan1111 — 19 years ago(January 24, 2007 11:49 PM)
I saw a documentary about this case and it said Rappe had cronic bladder infections . Not a problem in this day and age, but back then their were no antibiotics, so a chronic infection could not be treated and could kill you. They think that contributed to her death. I think their was a famous tenis player in the 30's who died from an infection in his foot. Scary times for medical problems. Poor Arbucle had bad lawyers who decided not to give a closing argument at his trial. The media was really bad with the false headlines back then too.
