Profondo Rosso - Argento's finest? Your opinion!
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danakate2502 — 18 years ago(December 07, 2007 04:02 PM)
Yeah, I love Inferno too! I love it more than Suspiria which makes me a ve111cry untypical Argento fan as it seems to be the norm that we all love Suspiria and think of Inferno as being half-rate. With us all being obsessive viewers, we tend to poke more holes in plots than what the first viewing audience would! Deep Red has its downsides with a few plot holes, but it's still gorgeous giallo! I was always curious as to what everyone thought - hence the title of the topic as everyone's opinions on Argento get mixed-up and hard to find! Any Nicolodi fans here?
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gManalishi — 18 years ago(December 13, 2007 05:10 AM)
I love
Profondo Rosso
. It's not only my favourite Argento but one of my favourite films of all time. In terms of plot I think it's probably the closest Argento has come to perfection.
Inferno
is good and rather under-rated but I do not prefer it to
Suspiria
.
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myboigie — 17 years ago(May 15, 2008 01:43 PM)
Inferno is Argento's greatest accomplishment technically, as well in the story and the themes (alchemy and the occult). I think it's safe to say he helped invent the occult-horror genre, Soavi perfected it. In many respects, I like Soavi even better, especially with the Church.
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Ralphus2 — 15 years ago(August 23, 2010 08:36 AM)
Profondo Rosso is great, but I prefer Suspiria and The Bird with the Crystal Plumage.
The scene with the bizarre doll is excellent as is the whole bathroom steam thing. The weird girl who kills lizards, the freaky music box theme, the opening with the kid witnessing the murderlots of great scenes/ideasbut it fails for me with the corny attempts at humour between Nicolodi & Hemmingsalso the up and down, up and down, up and down the stairs at the house scene just draaaaaaags, it contributes to a considerable longueuer mid-film.
I also love the fact that he reveals the killer early one. It leads to the Blow Up thing mentioned by others, but also echoes Crystal Plumage where the protagonist can't quite put his finger on what he saw in the gallerythat scene is, I believe, the single greatest Argento scene. It's amazing how he frames the stark white of the gallery in the darkness of night. The scene couldn't be any more brightly illuminated, yet he doesn't quite see things right. Brilliant. -
khalidamin — 13 years ago(August 04, 2012 11:17 PM)
btw it was the one of the best plot twists everi didn't see it coming..it should be treated amogn plots twists as the usual suspcts , saw and psycho..
except that this one is a scary plot twist..the idea itself.. '' without spoilers '' -
smp33 — 18 years ago(January 17, 2008 01:29 AM)
I think Profondo Rosso(Deep Red)is a really good film is one of my favouite Argento filmsbut Suspiria i think is a step up from itit was for me anyway the film which saw Argento go from being a good film director to be being a great one.
But that`s just me.
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In_Fockin_Bruges — 18 years ago(February 24, 2008 11:53 AM)
I love Profondo Rosso, I mean.. it's amazingly written, the death scenes are great, the score is superb and the surreal world of crime and violence that Argento creates in this movies is brilliant, however.. as a Horror fan I think Suspiria is his best, it's everything you can ask for in a horror movie, the visual factor is out of this world and the whole movie is STUNNING, a truly masterpie.
The Bird with the Crystal Plumage and Opera are great also, I like Inferno, Tenebre and Phenomena. -
weschingsdieder — 18 years ago(February 27, 2008 04:34 PM)
Definitely Argento's best in my book. He never combined his rich imagination more profound (LOL) with his technical skills imo, even though it hasn't the most impressive form of all of his movies. Somehow, it's a very diverse filme which you can't possibly ever understand totally - this is possible with most if not all of his film imo - but NOT with "Profondo Rosso".
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Yagamei — 17 years ago(April 14, 2008 09:38 AM)
Profondo rosso is easily my favorite too, though I'm a total Argentophile and admiringly tend to like even his less popular films. I loved Nonhosonno.
I could gab for hours about the film, but I'll leave it with this: any director who has the balls, not to mention the prowess, to show the killer within the first 15 minutes of the film and yet completely baffle most people by the end, gets major kudos. It's a shame a lot of my friends who I recommended the film resorted to rewinding their DVDs the second that odd face flashes, thus ruining the plot slightly.
Definitely a film best enjoyed in sb68eedy downtown screening houses, where you can't REWIND. There's a reason Marc continuously flashes back to that sequence. We're supposed to share his confusion. That's really what Blow-Up was about: as one author called it, "the impossibility of knowing". -
DrLenera — 17 years ago(April 18, 2008 11:44 AM)
There are at least four Argento films I prefer [Suspiria,Opera,Stendahl Syndrome and possibly Phenomena] to Profundo Rosso but I agree it could very well be his best film from a critical perspective,it has his most thought-through plot in my opinion and balances all it's elements perfectly, with the Hemmings/Nicolodi scenes a nice break from the Giallo stuff. It's probably the ultimate Giallo-some good later films were made including some by Argento but they couldn't really take the form any further. Trauma and Sleepless copy Deep Red quite a bit!
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Simian_Jack — 17 years ago(July 02, 2008 12:57 PM)
That's a difficult question, and one that ordinarily I wouldn't attempt. These are apples and oranges, a modern mystery thriller and a modern fable/fairy tale. Given that, though, is it worth considering that perhaps Suspiria wins because it may have been the more challenging mark to hit? The craft involved in both is impressive.
Beyond that, my choice would be biased in favor of my love of horror films over giallos.
Count me as another who loves Inferno in a very personal waytoo much to objectively compare it against Suspiria. I love all three of these equally above all the others. -
Master_X_3_1_1 — 17 years ago(July 19, 2008 03:13 PM)
To be honest I was really dissapointed. It was still a decent film to watch, but it was very boring at times, and it was a real letdown when the killer was revealed, we didn't get any backstory or anything about why
she
killed people or anything. I guess all his other movies had something about them that made them really stand out, but this seemed like a standard thriller that any director could have done (most scenes at least).
I guess I just don't see what all the hype was about.
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Nykvist768 — 17 years ago(August 11, 2008 04:29 PM)
The Bird with the Crystal Plumage was beautiful to look at. Vittorio Storaro's
cinematography was amazing and Ennio Morricone's score was also fantastic. The honor for Argento's best goes to Suspiria, I love that movie. -
KMR — 17 years ago(August 19, 2008 11:00 AM)
Yeah, I think Suspiria is still my favorite Argento, with Deep Red a close second. I think both are his masterworks and have never been bettered. Inferno, Tenebre, 4 Flies, Bird with Crystal Plumage and the Stendahl Syndrome can all duke it out for the next spots on my "best" list. His only real outright theatrical dud for me was Phantom of the Opera, though The Mother of Tears and The Card Player have their fair share of problems as well. Oh yeah, Nohosonno was really good - easily his best of this decade's releases so far.
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alanbobet — 17 years ago(October 05, 2008 08:13 PM)
Just like it happens with all the films that I have seen in my lifetime, the first film that I see made by a certain director or moviestar, becomes my favorite of that director or filmstar. Just as GOLDFINGER is my favorite Bond film because it was the first 007 film that I ever saw, and ENTER THE DRAGON was my favorite Bruce Lee film because it was also the first Bruce Lee film that I ever saw, then DEEP RED(PROFONDO ROSSO) is my favorite Argento film of all of his films because it was the first Argento film that I ever saw in 1976. I have seen all of Argento's films from BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE to MOTHER OF TEARS, but DEEP RED is still my favorite with SUSPIRIA coming in at a very close second place. I have seen DEEP RED hundreds of times on video and a couple of more times in theatres(the last time in a double bill with BIRD16d0 WITH THE CRTSTAL PLUMAGE in NYC in 2004)and it still holds up beautifully. It's Dario's best Giallo film of his entire career in my honest opinion and the first one I recommend to friends if they are going to see an Argento film for the first time.
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