Was he Hispanic?
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jamesabutler44 — 17 years ago(March 18, 2009 06:52 AM)
According to NNDB, his ethnicity is listed as white. I'm not sure why you would assume someone with dark skin is Hispanic or Middle Eastern. Living in Southern California, he probably was always sun tanned.
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IsaacDeri — 11 years ago(December 24, 2014 02:56 AM)
Middle eastern is white, we just have darker skin. Jews are middle eastern, or of middle eastern desscent. Harris is a name that some jews from europe have, that might explain it, or maybe not. European jews can be quite dark because they have a lot of middle eastern ancestry sometimes. I don't know what Derek's background is, but he is tan, and in the ten commandments, they probably used bronzer on top of that.
Hispanics aren't a race either. There are white hispanics and black hispanics as well as native indian hispanics, or a mixture of all three. Many hispanics are indeed white, just mediterranean from spain, and spanish people can be dark or very light with red hair and freckles.
Jews (jews from north africa and europe) are more of race than hispanics are. We are the same genetically. Obviously most jews from india and china are converts and look indian and chinese, or are heavily mixed. -
IsaacDeri — 11 years ago(December 30, 2014 01:28 PM)
medge, do you enjoy stalking me on these boards? How many hours a day do you spend doing that? Are you serious?
I'm not trying to be white, I am, as according to the US census definition of white. Anyone with ancestry from europe, north africa, and the middle east is white/caucasian. Why do you hate 'white' so much?
I am Jewish from Morocco, my ancestors were from Israel and live in Israel today. I am proud to be middle eastern/mediterranean. But I don't pretend to be a non-white person either, mediterranean people are white, whether they are from italy, france, albania, greece, or morocco.
No matter how many times you scream mediterranean people are not white, sorry, it will not make it true. Deal with it. Its not even that big of a deal to me, but only to people like yourself who like to invent new racial categories that do not exist. Get over the west vs. the rest idea. -
IsaacDeri — 11 years ago(January 04, 2015 01:34 AM)
If I am not white, then neither are the french, greeks, or the people from the caucasus, the real caucasians, the archetype for the white/caucasian race, the armenians, georgians, chechens, azeris, etc.
Persians pride themselves in being aryan, and its true, they are.
I have no desire to be white, its what I am. And I have nothing against black people or east asian people, or native americans. No race is superiob68r to another, and race is today's society is more of a social construct, although there are some genetics backing up the idea, at least to some extent.
I am an olive skinned person. But I do not wish to split hairs between an olive skinned jew and a paler swiss person or red haired georgian or armenian. I don't think its good to invent new racial categories that define people by their ability to tan or their eye color, if we did this, than members of the same family would belong to different races. So we can either throw out race altogether, or we can just go with what we have, stick to the categories that exist, but not make them define us as people.
Ethnicity and ancestry should be cherished, but it all comes down to the individual. In America today, too many people become obsessed with trying to redefine mediterranean people as non-white. Sometimes white supremacists do it, other times 'anti-racists' do it in an attempt to marginalize those with lighter complexions to further their own subconscious racism and/or prejudice.
In europe, jews were not white. Many were killed as a result of this. Nazism. And yet when people today who try to come up with a bunch of new racial categories in the name of multiculturalism we are left with pretty much the same thing. Labeling people based on tanning ability, eye and hair color, and assuming things, many times false assumptions about them and their life experiences based on their phenotype. Double standards are also created.
Is the system we have today perfect? No. Not by a long shot, but I just say we should live with what we have in place and not further expand it. It will only lead to more racism and more prejudice, and we have enough of that going around already.