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    joystar5879 — 12 years ago(April 03, 2014 08:07 PM)

    They were Roman Catholic, in an era when Divorce was a worse sin than a Husband's Adultery.
    "I do hope he won't upset Henry.."

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      metalman091 — 11 years ago(June 29, 2014 12:04 AM)

      I'm not sure if religion played a part. Hope had already been married to Grace Troxell.
      Dolores had been singing at the Club Richman. George Murphy and his wife invited Bob Hope to come along and see her.
      According to George Murphy, Hope had met Dolores and couldn't stop thinking about her. Thirty or so years later, Dolores sent Murphy a fine contribution to his campaign [Murphy was up against Pierre Salinger for the Senate] along with a note of thanks for introducing her to Bob.
      That shows there was a great love in the relationship. Maybe Dolores "understood" her husband.

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        !!!deleted!!! (2212087) — 10 years ago(July 10, 2015 01:42 AM)

        But being a Catholic may have been an important reason for Dolores Hope to keep on working at the marriage after a lot of other women would have given up.
        Whatever the reasons, it seems to have been a successful marriage.

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          !!!deleted!!! (2212087) — 10 years ago(July 10, 2015 01:45 AM)

          I don't think the Catholic Church, at that time, really had a problem with divorce. A divorce in a family wasn't greeted with cheers, but it was accepted. Re-marriage was where the problems started.

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            chasrich-1 — 11 years ago(September 24, 2014 01:43 AM)

            MONEY!

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              gbennett5 — 11 years ago(November 20, 2014 03:04 AM)

              Give me a break. Virtually NO male star, then or now - or even female
              star, for that matter - is 100 percent faithful to his/her spouse.
              Even Meryl Streep - who's been married for 30-plus years- has dallied
              on the side (most notably with Jack Nicholson).
              Welcome to show business. In this regard, Bob Hope isn't unique.

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                generalusgrant — 11 years ago(November 23, 2014 07:45 PM)

                I would say that Gregory Peck was faithful to Veronique and that Jimmy Stewart was faithful to his wife.
                Bob Hope's womanizing was in another league. Even Dorothy Lamour spoke at great length about this aspect of both Bob and Bing late in her life.

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                  gbennett5 — 11 years ago(November 24, 2014 02:20 AM)

                  You are wrong - Stewart wasn't faithful his entire marriage. And while
                  some men (and women) stars were/are worse than others, infidelity is the
                  norm in Hollywood.
                  I maintain that Hope and Crosby were not unique.

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                    JoeyJoeyJoey — 11 years ago(November 28, 2014 06:03 PM)

                    jimmy stewart was getting it on with kim novak. OBVIOUS.

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                      metalman091 — 11 years ago(December 20, 2014 12:14 AM)

                      Anyone who says that about James Stewart or Gregory Peck clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. Peck had affairs during his first marriage, but nothing suggests he did the same thing with his second wife.
                      As for Stewart, every biography- and there have been a few bad ones- have gone out of their way to show Stewart was a loyal husband. To make a statement like this without evidence is a trademark of this particular poster. Even worse is to lump all these actors in the same group.
                      Whatever happened between Hope and Dolores they made it work. It appears that Hope was thought of very highly by his wife, children and his peers.

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                        gbennett5 — 11 years ago(April 02, 2015 06:11 AM)

                        "THIS particular poster???" All anyone has to do is look at what you've
                        done to the Judy Garland board to know what a freak you are.
                        And, no, Stewart was not a hundred percent faithful during his marriage.
                        Come in out of the rain and stop confusing his "golly-gee-whiz"
                        characters with the actor himself.
                        And I did not lump everyone together. I said most stars are not
                        faithful, then or now. To what degree, has nothing whatsoever to
                        do with my point.
                        You're a four-door, brass-plated ass.

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                          !!!deleted!!! (2212087) — 10 years ago(July 10, 2015 01:53 AM)

                          You have piqued my interest. I have read biographies of both actors, but nothing I have read indicates that they weren't faithful husbands.5b4
                          I know James Stewart was a real womaniser in his early years but I have read nothing to indicate anything but his devotion to Gloria after their marriage. Same with the success of Gregory Peck's second marriage to his wife, Veronique.
                          I will be fascinated to read some books or articles which indicate the contrary. Could you please make some suggestions? Thanks

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                              !!!deleted!!! (2212087) — 10 years ago(July 10, 2015 01:54 AM)

                              Charlton Heston?

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                                texastreasure517 — 9 years ago(June 26, 2016 09:31 AM)

                                There are many notabe exceptions: There was never any dirt on Charles Boyer; he committed suicide 2 days after his wife died of cancer. Fred MacMurray was another. He was very devoted to June Haver.

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                                  stanleybix-1 — 10 years ago(June 25, 2015 06:03 AM)

                                  I don't know about other actors, but Charles Boyer was married 40 years and committed suicide two days after his wife died!

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                                    willjohn — 10 years ago(November 04, 2015 11:42 AM)

                                    She was Catholic. Back then divorce was an excommunication offence in the eyes of the Vatican.

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                                      texastreasure517 — 9 years ago(June 26, 2016 09:40 AM)

                                      It wasn't the divorce, it was the remarriage. The Church understood that there were reasons in life that peopl5b4e must part: domestic violence for example. The reasoning was that God doesn't want people to put their lives in danger. However, remarriage was a no-no. In the eyes of God, you are still married to your first spouse forever. This is provided you were married in the church the first time, of course.

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                                        metalman091 — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 12:02 AM)

                                        It wasn't the divorce, it was the remarriage. The Church understood that there were reasons in life that people must part: domestic violence for example. The reasoning was that God doesn't want people to put their lives in danger. However, remarriage was a no-no. In the eyes of God, you are still married to your first spouse forever. This is provided you were married in the church the first time, of course.
                                        Boy, religion sure is a joke. God sure made up a bunch of crazy rules. But the best thing he did was convince others that he actually exists. At least we know Bob Hope existed.

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                                          cooljoebay2 — 9 years ago(January 26, 2017 11:06 AM)

                                          First of all. Divorce papers were found that belonged to Bob Hope and another woman AFTER he was supposedly married to his wife. Meaning he was a bigamist. people can debate this stuff all day long.
                                          But I say the bottom line is this. The life of the famous is based on lies and deception. Media entertainment is a psychological experiment designed to fool the brain. You come out feeling a certain way about a certain person you have never met. Jimmy Stewart is a GREAT example. On screen he was considered a saint. In real life he was nothing of the kind. John Wayne was the same. You can write a list a mile long full of "admirable" people who were the opposite of that. Bob Hope was nothing more than a piece of dog doo.
                                          I spent years on a big stage, being envied and admired by many. And I did a great job at making myself appealing. But I got tired of the fakery. When I didnt perform, people turned their backs. So I quit and got married to someone who would sacrifice for anyone. And three kids later, I look back thinking about my past. And I am glad I walked away. There is nothing good to be found in such a life. My family and friends used to envy me for the life I had. And I used to tell them, my life isn't so great. All they could see was a man who got to get paid for being admired. There is NOTHING great about it. Its dysfunctional. It kills the soul. It wastes time. It prevents you from living a real life, meeting challenges to overcome. Growing spiritually with loved ones. being famous SUCKS. It stinks. And the people who embrace it STINK. They just pretend to not stink.
                                          And people like YOU are the enablers that help ruin the lives of others. If people stopped worshiping celebs, people would stop becoming famous. And then maybe they would have a chance. I admire people who raise families and devote their lives to other people. But I despise those who devote themselves to their own selfish cause for fame and fortune. They dont get my vote. The perception of modern society is upside down. I would say the Amish are the only people today who can still see through the eyes of the common man 200 years ago. Once upon a time your ancestors would have looked upon today's society and saw the majority of all families today as failures.

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