The homosexuality issue… EVERYONE wondering ANYTHING please read!!!
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whybother7-1 — 18 years ago(March 24, 2008 10:34 PM)
^^Exactly. What's wrong with discussing it? It's one thing to want to respect an actor's private life, it's another to ignore who someone really is. I don't think Rock liked having to hide his being gay and who he was at all. It was just something he had to do in order to have a career. We aren't disrespecting his legacy or anything by questioning his sexuality. I think he deserves to be remembered for who he was and not the perfect picture hollywood painted for him.
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jonmarmont — 17 years ago(June 21, 2008 07:15 AM)
Obviously the orininal poster to this thread is a bit stupid. Firstly we can talk about whatever we please, as bjd, 'free speech rocks'.
Secondly the original poster should not automatically assume that any discussions surrounding his homosexuality are going to be prejudiced in nature. It actually says more about her than it does about us!
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jingle_bones — 18 years ago(February 08, 2008 10:03 AM)
I thought it was quite well known within Hollywood that he was gay. There is a strong homosexual subtext in many of his films, included those with Doris (especially 'Pillow Talk') and those directed by Douglas Sirk.
Many more vintage stars were gay than the public realised. In those days the studios protected the reputation of stars whom were big box office draws. Rock, for example, was 'arranged' a marriage with a Universal Studios employee.
Rock was gay yet sustained a successful career in cinema and television and was adored by millions of women (and men!) the world over. Way to go Rock!
Just for the record, I am a straight man and I love Rock; he is, undoubtedly, one of my favourite stars. Why should I care if he prefered men to women? -
gonewiththewindlove — 17 years ago(May 09, 2008 09:05 PM)
i really agree w/ you.so what if he was gay or was rumored to be gay, he was a great actor and performer and so many other great leading men like montgomery clift and it is rumored james dean was to.
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surly_human_sidekick — 17 years ago(June 11, 2008 06:22 PM)
Usually I would agree that an actor's sexuality has no relevance to his or her body of work and is hardly worthy of discussion. In the case of Rock Hudson, however, I believe the topic is hugely relevant due to his death from AIDS.
At the time, Rock Hudson was probably the first public persona that most people knew with the disease. His diagnosis being made public opened up the subject of AIDS into households in which it may never have been discussed. While his death may not have eliminated prejudice attached to AIDS, it was hugely imporant in being the first small step towards understanding.
This included information about transmission of the disease and eliminating some of the myths still attached to it in the mid-80s. It was through Rock Hudson that many people learned that AIDS cannot be caught through kissing.
And it was the re16d0action of his friends in Hollywwood, who rallied around Rock and showed their support, that showed the public that AIDS sufferers should not be treated as pariahs.
It's of credit to Rock Hudson that there was no further public denial of his sexuality once his diagnosis was made public. There was no pretending that it had been caught via a blood tranfusion or whatever. As a result, Rock was the first well-known gay face of AIDS. He may still be the most well-known person to die from the disease.
His place in history should not detract from his many fine movies and performances. His professional contribution to movies is a sensational legacy. But he also left a legacy in his personal life which will not be forgotten. -
cwm368 — 17 years ago(June 13, 2008 06:34 PM)
Rock did speculated that he got AIDS thorugh blood transfusion, he didn't say that's how he caught it, but once his condition was made public he issued a statement asking his fans not to jump to conclusions and that he could've gotten it through transfusions. Rock to the end never confirmed that he was gay but he lived openly in some parts of his life. Most of Hollywood knew, most of the important people in his life knew. He knew a public confession would've ended his career.
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jonmarmont — 17 years ago(June 27, 2008 01:38 PM)
Personally, i am beginning to think that Mallrats (original poster-shouting earlier about everyone to stop talking about Rock's sexuality) is less concerned with Rock's sexuality, but, in actual fact, seems to have a problem or feels unconfortable talking about homosexuality in general.
Mallrats claims that we should NOT talk about his homosexualit111cy as we are being disrespectful. Does mallrats then think that homosexuality is something to be ashamed of??
If Rock was straight and we were discussing who his partners were, would mallrats accuse us of being disrespectful?? I think not. Its mallrats that has the problem with homosexuality as she clearly sees the two as 'unequal' and that homosexuality should stay firmly 'at the back of the closet'. OR she is in denial and therefore flatly refuses to accept her idol's 'true identity' which would then shatter her illusions - which is it mallrats?
I strongly suspect the latter - I see it so often with posters, particularly on the Montgomery Clift bourd (my particular idol) of whom I idolise for what he actually was, rather than a suger coated version constructed in my imagination to fit in with my illusions. And that is what being a 'true' fan is about - if you can love them with all their foibles and disfunctionalities and meet them head on and still idolise them - then, a true fan you will be. If not - then you are not only deluded but you are also doing them a dis-service by rejecting such significant parts of their persona. It should be all or nothing.
I will shut up now lol
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jonmarmont — 17 years ago(June 27, 2008 01:42 PM)
As a footnote, i am NOT including homosexuality when i talk about foibles and disfunctionalities, i am talking about their weaknessess and failings. Homosexuality is a legitimate sexuality that in this day and age should be celebrated and the least we can do is give that to Rock now, who, did not have that luxury at his time of life.
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cwm368 — 17 years ago(July 07, 2008 06:20 AM)
The man was a "big time" Homosexual it was a significant part of his life. Now away from the public eye (barely) when he was alive but never-the-less significant, why should we not discuss it? To ignore that part of his life is in alot of ways ignoring him! The bottom line is some people are gay and it should not be put on the back burner, everyone deserves a level of respect and that includes if they were gay.
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Miss_gene_hunt — 17 years ago(August 08, 2008 05:10 AM)
I just watch is bio on the bio chanel .. he didnt like hiding the face he was Gay . He had to date women cos the other actors who where Gay had to so al so. But a magazine thought he was Gay and one of his Friends was asked to expose him but they didnt. Universal who tried to cover it up. Anyways i dont really care if he was Gay or not he is one of my favourite Actors and always will be . End of the day he is still a person .What i cant believe what Marc Christian did to him wasnt Horrible . Imaginge sueing Hudson Estate claiming he gave him Aids when he was negatvie and he still got 5 million of is money .Cruel the world we live in . Everyone is Equal no matter what. I Respect him as an actor as I love I love I love you. I never wish to be parted from you from this day onit must have been hard to come out after 30 years because in the bio he was reluctening in the end to do so. He only Caught Aids in the 80's when he was flew to Newyork in 1984 and sex with a guy who then sent him a letter saying he didnt know he had hiv
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dakotasdad — 17 years ago(January 12, 2009 08:35 PM)
Stars like John Travolta are still forced (for the sake of their careers and possible personal reasons) to stay semi-closeted. Some like John go farther and even get married but it is not new for gay men to be married. Closeted gay media mogul Barry Diller married fashion icon Diane Von Furstenberg (sp?) several years ago yet most people in the business know he is very gay:)