Columbo should be seen from the beginning starting with its original pilot movie "Prescription Murder" which is adapted
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Eric-62-2 — 12 years ago(February 03, 2014 03:28 PM)
That was the point of the fanfic story, incidentally, that there wasn't anything that could be done to save Janet, but that by changing history in the 50s, events took a happier course in the years leading up to her death for all parties concerned. It was designed to see to it that in the 50s, Payne hadn't screwed up his life and instead married Janet so that they had a happy 19 years or so and Jaffe was better off. THere was a very distinct vibe in the episode I felt that Janet had married Jaffe on the rebound from a broken relationship with Payne (that Payne had screwed up) and it wasn't a married based on love but the safety net of security. It's that kind of backstory subtext about the characters that ultimately makes Payne's act of self-sacrifice at the end believably poignant because he believes that if it werent' for his mistakes, the woman he's always loved never would have committed a murder of any kind.
I believe it was either a tumor or aneurysm of some type that was used as the explanation. And the amazing thing is that you can literally see the moment where her awareness of having killed Jaffe disappears from her mind and from that point on, she's not the usual Columbo killer covering up her crime through lies but a genuinely confused person who doesn't know what's going on. It was a very effective directorial touch.
I don't think Columbo was uncarin5b4g. He did after all tell Payne that "he had a problem" with this case, which revealed how he wasn't anxious to arrest Janet, but that he was going to have to let duty take its course. albeit reluctantly.
Oh and if you think I'm a Columbo fan because I've written five stories there, you should see my "Battlestar Galactica" contributions which are over 30 stories in the last twenty years.
I've always enjoyed writing fanfic as a recreational pasttime and it even helped me in my grad school days do a better job of writing research papers and my dissertation, because it made me more cognizant of how to structure things properly (many people wash out of doctoral programs because they don't know how to write). -
hobnob53 — 12 years ago(February 03, 2014 09:36 PM)
Alternativelyshe might have ended up killing
Payne
because he tried to block her plans for a comeback!
Meaning, even had he avoided the car crash (right?) that ended his dancing career, and they'd married, they'd probably be over the hill 20 years later anyway. Not to mention divorced.
Although back in pre- and post-grad days I wrote a lot of "outside" things for fun, even going back to first or second grade, I never thought of doing so as a means of honing my verbal, writing or organizational skills (such as, like, you know, they are). By the time I attended journalism school for my graduate degree, I quickly had it beaten into me that if you didn't learn how to organize your thoughts clearly and write the story concisely and accurately, you'd be out pretty fast!
Or, you became a film critic.
PS: I'm still paranoid about that troll I mentioned a few days ago, the one who enjoys turning people in to the IMDb thought police for
ABUSE!!!
Perhaps we've strayed too far off Jim Hutton, via Ellery Queen? Not that I'm not enjoying it, but the experience of a random, self-appointed troll who seems to do little else than tattle on others has put me on my guard, and maybe more. Rattled by a ratter. -
MsELLERYqueen2 — 12 years ago(February 03, 2014 10:18 PM)
Don't worry about going off-topic on my threads.
Threads are set up for talking. Talk as much as you like. Don't worry about which direction the conversation takes.
Believe me, I've heard plenty about the "on topic, off topic" issue. Your posts are a refreshing change from that mindset. Just post!
Maybe eventually the conversation will get back to Jim Hutton.
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hobnob53 — 12 years ago(February 04, 2014 10:29 PM)
Of course,
you
would think that, MEQ!
Except that nobody ever went to see a "Jim Hutton movie". They
did
go to see a "John Wayne movie". Jim Hutton was never a box-office name or major movie star, so putting him in the tagline of a film wouldn't have induced anybody to see itother than his small coterie of die-hard fans, who'd go anyway.
C'est le cinma. -
MsELLERYqueen2 — 12 years ago(February 04, 2014 10:52 PM)
Okay.
Hey, I hope that you guys will continue to talk about Columbo to your heart's content.
I'm not chasing you two off the thread. I would never chase Gentlemen off my threads
Thanks for your interesting comments!
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hobnob53 — 12 years ago(February 05, 2014 08:48 AM)
Hey, I was just teasin' ya, aw, shucks.
As they say about a defense attorney's objections on
Law & Order
, "She opened the door, Your Honor!"
I'll see about
Columbo
discussions. But why don't you try to see if you can watch some of them first? Then maybe we can continue talking about the series over on its site (which I don't think I've ever visited). I think you will enjoy itunless you're stuck on a traditional "sleuth" plot construct, of not knowing the murderer until the end. -
hobnob53 — 12 years ago(February 05, 2014 11:08 AM)
Not movies, TV shows. They were long, running either 90 or 120 minutes (with commercials: the actual programs were shorter). I assume some are on DVD but I've never actually looked. Again, look for the original shows from the 70s. They may also be on line.
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hobnob53 — 12 years ago(February 07, 2014 07:37 PM)
Please.
BTW, I did look, and there's one set containing
all
the
Columbo
s the pilot shows, the original 70s series (8 or 10 seasons), plus the later TV movies from 1989 on. Rather a costly set (retail about $150 US, but I've seen it for about $60 off), but all-encompassing, and I may get it myself.
Happy watching! See you later. -
MsELLERYqueen2 — 11 years ago(August 15, 2014 04:32 PM)
Well, I've been watching the
Columbo
episodes for about a week now, and I'm enjoying them. Yes, they are inverted murder mysteries. I've liked those types of mysteries ever since I read a few of them several years ago. I had been wondering why more inverted mysteries weren't filmed. Now I see that there are a lot of them!
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MsELLERYqueen2 — 11 years ago(August 15, 2014 01:00 AM)
OK, see you there.if you wish to go there!
By now I have seen most of season one and also a later episode, so I'm able to provide comments about a few of them, anyway.
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