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      giardia — 17 years ago(April 18, 2008 05:30 PM)

      i'm a big fan and i've noticed that in his early works but i think his latest movies are very good indeed.

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        megatosspot — 17 years ago(June 03, 2008 02:50 AM)

        He seems very hit and miss - when he sticks to telling a story he's great. Maybe he gets a bit caught up in the vision thing going on in his own head sometimes.

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          vmccann — 17 years ago(June 27, 2008 03:05 PM)

          you must see The butcher Boy, it is absolutely his best piece of work in my opinion. Stunning performance by the child in the film.
          This race and this country and this life produced me,he said.I shall express myself as I am - Joyce

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            starline — 17 years ago(January 08, 2009 03:10 AM)

            DefinitelyThe Butcher Boy is his best one! 🙂

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              TheBrownBunny66 — 17 years ago(April 07, 2009 01:20 AM)

              I love the butcher boy but i gotta say that the good thief is my fave so underrated
              If God exists, why did he make me an atheist? That's his first mistake. That and the talking snake

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                ThreeSadTigers — 16 years ago(June 04, 2009 01:09 AM)

                He sometimes follows a good film with a mediocre one, and his work in Hollyb68wood is usually a bit generic in contrast to his grittier or more eccentric films made in Ireland or the UK.
                My favourites are Danny Boy, The Company of Wolves, Mona Lisa, The Butcher Boy, The End of the Affair and The Good Thief.

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                  kronos251 — 16 years ago(July 16, 2009 11:01 AM)

                  I admire his work on "We're No Angels" (1989), starring Robert De Niro, Sean Penn, Demi Moore in it. Yet it produced little to no commercial success, but instead ire and plain confusion from these arrogant ass critics at the time. Now THAT is his MOST underrated.
                  How he turned a simple comedy to a melodramatic thriller is beyond great truly stupendous as he pays homage to the original but creates his own through the remake. Like a different work of art and soul altogether.
                  That movie has soul. I have yet to see other m111covies by him (ie Vampire, Brave One) though not really a fan of that genre.
                  "Tell me, friend, can you ask for anything more?"
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                    Tish418 — 16 years ago(September 03, 2009 05:31 AM)

                    From what I've seen (The Crying Game and The Butcher Boy), I definitely wouldn't class him as a good director
                    -We've survived yet again-
                    -We've lost yet again-

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                      mstroupe — 16 years ago(February 10, 2010 03:11 PM)

                      Ironically, I think The Crying Game and The Brave One are two of his most "soulful" movies.
                      I do agree with you that his movies seem "uneven," but I don't think of that as a criticism. I think they throw you off balance, and when a director does that, it always makes me pay attention a little more.
                      When I first watched the Crying Game, I was confused at first, because he seems to lead you down one path and then abruptly changes it. But then I realized, and I think he does this with a lot of his films quite brilliantly, that the story I originally thought I was watching was only the tip of the iceberg, and that lives and stories are always much more complicated than the usual narrow plot of a movie.
                      His films are pretty subtle, which sometimes can be tiring because of how much you have to pay attention, but it's very worth it.

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                        ir13373r7h4nu — 16 years ago(February 10, 2010 04:01 PM)

                        The way you're describing Crying Game is how I felt about Mike Leigh's "All or Nothing". It was fantastic and had so much going on and what's clever about that movie is after about90 minutes it finds its main focus. It threw off some people but it made it most worth it for me.
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                          mstroupe — 16 years ago(February 10, 2010 08:10 PM)

                          Sounds interesting!b68 I haven't seen that one.
                          The Crying Game is so fascinating because Jordan leads you in one very clear direction, and then turns the steering wheel ninety degrees, and suddenly you're very unsure of whose story it is. It really made me rethink what kind of plot lines could go together in movieshow sometimes juxtaposing two seemingly unrelated stories together can illuminate things about both. And not like Pulp Fiction (as great as that film is), where unrelated plots connect as you go, but completely shifting the plot and priorities of the main character thirty minutes in to something that comes out of left field.
                          It's an amazing film, and I've realized of late that Neil Jordan is really a fine director overall, although I think he's quite underrated in America.

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                            shushens — 14 years ago(August 20, 2011 08:33 PM)

                            I have seen almost all of Neil Jordan's films. Mona Lisa, The B5b4rave One, Crying Game (not my most favourite), Interview with the Vampire, In Dreams, etc. and I never felt any of it was rushed or got success largely because of the writer. Neil Jordan has this property, in his film a lot of the things you hear are actually unsaid. I feel now he is not doing so well and is kind of tired with it all, looking at The Borgias, especially. It is visually stunning and Neil has tallied the Ts and dotted the Is, but you can tell when someone is lacking that little bit of extra passion.
                            You need to have some first hand experiences and some seasoning regarding emotional complexity to better appreciate Neil Jordan, and I am not talking about being dumped by girlfriend sort of emotional complexity.

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                              youaresquishy — 14 years ago(September 05, 2011 01:37 PM)

                              I believe he is a fairly bad writer as well as a fairly bad director. You're not the only one OP2000.

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                                Hello_Jill — 14 years ago(September 08, 2011 12:14 PM)

                                Cool story bro.

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                                  ethermusic1981 — 12 years ago(December 23, 2013 01:02 PM)

                                  Cool story bro? You're a dunce.

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                                    herzogMOVIEfreak09 — 13 years ago(March 11, 2013 07:14 AM)

                                    he is one of my favorites. which is saying a ton (iown over 1000 dvds).. u havent seen any of his great films, although i love breakfast on pluto. mona lisa, the crying game, we're no angels. even the good thief. in dreams is terrible

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                                      bpvalentine — 12 years ago(September 13, 2013 12:07 AM)

                                      I agree ab68bout In Dreams. I waited for it to hit my Netflix list forever and finally decided to rent it on itunes because Netflix always has it listed as a long wait. Like for YEARS now. I passed up In Dreams when it came out though I liked some Neil Jordan movies. Since then I fell in love with Mona Lisa, saw Interview again and realized just what a great movie that really is, and Crying Game holds up. But In Dreams.it is so beautifully shot and Robert Downy is excellent in the role. Likethat performance is original and I cant imagine that actors dont study it. the movie itself is a terrible joke. It actually made me angry. I know Jordan must have thought he was giving us a strong female, but she came off as being rather in love with her own misery. When her daughter goes missing, she makes it all about herself and her feelings. the police find a body and instead of letting them do what they can for her daughter, she woman abandons her husband and races off towards the scene in the car and risking everybodys lives in her wild Mr. toad driving just so she can have the heart breaking scene she is as the mother entitled to have, I guess. Laughable. I wanted the cop to slap her and be like, look lady, let us worry about your daughter right now rather than worry about you. Let us find what we can to make sure her death isnt unavenged. Aggravating.
                                      I dont know why she had to be psychic either. Just made the issue look silly. Robert Downys character could have had the gift and still invaded her dreams.
                                      Jordan has some great, great movies. And sometimes when he misses, he is incomprehensible. Like in High Spirits. Uh, whats with Darrel Hannah and Steve Guttenberg? Did he lose a bet?

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                                        shark-43 — 12 years ago(October 25, 2013 01:56 PM)

                                        Well, sadly, you have seen (in my opinion) some of his worst films. I also feel The brave One is a mess - a failed attempt at a female Death Wish BUT he has made some terrific films (Crying Game, Company Of Wolves, The Butcher Boy). He is talented butj sadly, of late, his films are a mess.

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                                          shark-43 — 12 years ago(October 25, 2013 01:57 PM)

                                          Well, sadly, you have seen (in my opinion) some of his worst films. I also feel The brave One is a mess - a failed attempt at a female Death Wish BUT he has made some terrific films (Crying Game, Company Of Wolves, The Butcher Boy). He is talented butj sadly, of late, his films are a mess.

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