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azn_2 — 1 year ago(August 03, 2024 08:40 AM)
Yay, he's back. I started googling the abuse allegations against him though. I've ignored most of it before. Do you really think he raped Evan Rachel Wood in his music video.? I'll be subscribing to Max and I'll be watching her documentary too. Idk why I didn't look more into all of this before because I like both of them. I guess I just can't be bothered with too much celebrity gossip so that's why I've been avoiding it.
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Lilith — 1 year ago(August 03, 2024 02:45 PM)
No, I don't believe he raped ERW in that video. She had a heavy creative hand in how scenes were filmed. I also saw interviews with two people who were on set filming the "sex" scene in that music video, and Manson was wearing black spandex shorts. There was a filming crew there and background actors who verified that there was no sexual intercourse, only acting.
ERW is a better actor than Amber Heard, but she's just as devious with her #MeToo hoax. The list of horrendous things she's done, including involving her son and husband, are nasty. I think she's a nasty piece of work along with Ilma Gore, her girlfriend at the time who planted the seed to get this ball rolling. If this were real, they wouldn't have had to hack into his devices, recruit women from his past, give them
scripts
(like for that documentary, Phoenix Rising, which is very shady and there's been fallout from that fiasco), and ERW would not have
forged an FBI document and pretended to be an actual FBI special agent.
I've also read the court documents that have been available and watched plenty of interviews of people. Interesting that Rose McGowan, the queen of #MeToo, has come forward in his defense, as has Dita. Plus, 3 women recanted, one switched sides and is admitting that ERW coerced her into appearing on Phoenix Rising and gave her (and the other women) a
script
to follow to present a certain agenda. So, when you watch that "documentary," keep that in mind.
Even ERW's husband supports Manson at this point given her toxicity. She complained about the age difference, but prior to Manson, she was dating a fellow actor even older than Manson. She's picking and choosing her outrage.
Like anything else, do your own research and come to your own conclusions. There's info out there on both sides, and I've watched it all and based on the information available, I believe he is, like Johnny Depp, the victim of an elaborate hoax, but on a much bigger scale.
His concert, what I've seen of it, was great. He's happily married, he's stable, he's been sober, he looks fantastic, his voice sounds like it used to, he's coming across as clean and crisp and sound. I would totally go see him in concert if I could get tickets! Too bad you didn't live here, we could go together!
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azn_2 — 1 year ago(August 05, 2024 01:22 AM)
Well I watched her documentary and I don't know what to believe. I remember her from movies like Thirteen but I haven't been following her in recent years. In the interviews I've watched of him he doesn't come off as a violent abuser. I guess you cannot know what really happened unless you were there. I do think they both seemed to be in an unhealthy relationship with each other but that doesn't mean that you're actually being coerced into something or that you're being abused. She choose to be in a relationship with him for almost 5 years. If it was as terrible as she wants us to believe she could have walked away from it sooner. I agree, he does look and sound great now and I would totally see him in concert with you if I lived in the States.
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azn_2 — 1 year ago(August 05, 2024 01:29 AM)
No, he's a rockstar but he comes off as very polite, calm and collected in the interviews I've seen of him.
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Lilith — 1 year ago(August 05, 2024 01:35 AM)
Exactly. He's always very calm and collected. When asked about what he'd tell the guys from Columbine, he said he wouldn't say anything, he would listen. That spoke volumes! He's a very intelligent man. Plus, he's been sober for years now, he's in a stable marriage, he's happy, he's healthy.
BTW: I saw ERW in Thirteen. That was a good movie.
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azn_2 — 1 year ago(August 05, 2024 02:16 AM)
Well said, Lilith.!
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Lilith — 1 year ago(August 05, 2024 01:32 AM)
After having heard interviews with his ex-girlfriends and associates, similar to with Johnny Depp, he has a history of being rather vanilla, intelligent, a gentleman, some even described their sex as "pretty ordinary" and nothing "freaky" like people like to imagine based off of the "shock rock" image that he spent decades cultivating. Too many women came out with the same thing, which is that he is not violent or abusive.
That one woman from Game of Thrones that made a claim against him, turned out she posted a stock photo of being bound by rope (so the image never showed her face), and she was also a bondage model, so she'd know how this all works. He hired her for some modeling work for a video I think, and flew her out, put her up and paid for her to return to England.
What sealed it for me was how the women in Phoenix Rising all came together one day before some expiration date on a law re: abuse and they all had "repressed memories" which is extremely rare, - as it's primarily what happens with childhood trauma being suppressed. The women that dropped their claims against Manson admitted Wood provided them with a sheet in advance about talking points, so the conversation was scripted and not organic.
Like anything else, I think people see his image on stage and assume that he must be some strange sex demon behind closed doors. There was way too much corroborating evidence to show he's innocent.
I think you and I would have a blast if we went to a concert together to see him!
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azn_2 — 1 year ago(August 05, 2024 02:14 AM)
I agree, I think he might be similar to how other celebrities describe themselves. I think he's actually an introvert in person but when he performs on stage he turns into an extrovert or a rockstar. Like I said I haven't really been following either of them very closely throughout the years though. I mean I listen to his music which is evident because I post it on here. But you seem to have been following this case pretty closely and like you I don't believe every one of these women's crazy stories about him.
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