No respect for her handling of Cassavetes' legacy
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death_jamm_productions — 15 years ago(May 21, 2010 04:05 AM)
tbh the bottom line is she was married to him, not Carney (although he probably would have loved to have been lol) and she has every right to feel disparaged by Carney's particularly harsh personal comments directed at how 'unhappy' John was in their marriage and his life-end of the day she lived with him, had his children and supported the family financially when he couldnt (and most of the time he couldnt) so im not surprised someone as high and mighty as Carney comes along acting like he knows everything there is to know and perturbs her..
carney is just a bitter smark who thinks he knws everything and should but out of the family business
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WarpedRecord — 15 years ago(May 31, 2010 12:36 PM)
You got that right! Gena has always struck me as an extremely dignified woman, especially for a Hollywood actress, and as such she's not likely to talk about her private issues in public the way certain outsiders are. Regardless, she was Cassavetes' wife and she's now his widow, as well as the star of his finest films (in my opinion), and that leaves her more than qualified to make decisions about his estate.
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clavinet27 — 13 years ago(June 26, 2012 11:46 AM)
I'm sure this topic is old hat for JC fans, but I have to throw in my two cents after I finally read Carney's book and online rants in full. I have to side with Gena. Carney did some amazing research, but him going online and attacking her is childish, especially since she doesn't strike me as internet saavy - one who will hop on Twitter or Facebook to issue a public rebuttal like a lot of stars nowadays do.
As for expanded versions of "Shadows" and "Faces", it's odd that she denies them existing when there's proof of the contrary, but 1) how much will this extra footage add to the enjoyment of these two already excellent films and 2) did Carney ASK HER BEFORE going on his expensive journey? It's like driving 50 miles to a store to buy something, finding out that it is out of stock, then blaming the manager for wasting your time and gas. God invented phones for a reason, you know
As for his beef with her because she "sanitizes" the story of her and John: what the hell is he talking about?!? Gena has participated in numerous film festival, television and DVD special feature interviews where her relationship with him, his drinking, financial troubles and his argumentative nature is touched on. Granted, she doesn't go into gory detail, but does she really need to? Will knowing more about some nervous breakdown she had 50 years ago or that John trashed some guys office in a fit of rage (two things in 'Cassavetes and Cassavetes' which I'm guessing Gena refused to allow to be detailed in print) really help us gain more insight into John's films? Is it not enough that John's films are deeply personal and semi-autobiographical? It seems like Carney just wants a "scoop". There are enough Hollywood Babylon, sex-drugs-and-rock'n'roll tell-all books out there (Steve McQueen, Elizabeth Taylor, Cary Grant). We don't need another one. Horrible look for Carney. -
jagheterjack00 — 13 years ago(July 01, 2012 01:08 PM)
To this day Gena celebrates John and his work. It would be foolish to release extended versions of Cassavetes' films when he's not here to supervise any of this.
And as for whoever commented on Rowlands career being down to Cassavetes' is talking utter nonsense. Rowlands is a fine performer whom was rarely out of work.
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death_jamm_productions — 13 years ago(September 11, 2012 01:47 PM)
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silliest thing I've read in a while
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Droncin — 12 years ago(September 21, 2013 09:51 PM)
I assume you me RAY Carney. He is intelligent but profoundly arrogant and seems to think he is uniquely placed to know what Cassavetes would have wanted. I think Gena is in a better position to know her husband's wishes. Carney has a history of trying to lay claim to materials lent to him rather than given. Also he is intolerant of any film that is outside of the Cassavetes-esque style of storytelling. Not that arrogance is a sign of being in the wrong but I would place myself in Gena's court over his if I had to.
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Prom_Queen_Carrie — 10 years ago(February 14, 2016 11:04 PM)
Carney is annoying and entitled. I saw an interview where John himself said the true version of Shadows is the second version. He didn't care for the first version, and Gena is trying to honor his wishes by not putting it out there. She knows what her husband would have wanted. Carney is just excited because he feels there is this holy grail to be uncovered that he knows something about.
He's also said disrespectful things about Rowlands, trying to downplay her contributions to her husband's films and seeing her as incapable of knowing anything insightful about her films with John. I heard an interview where she seemed to know more about her character Mable and her relationship with the Peter Falk character in A Woman Under the Influence than John even did.
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ang — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 08:01 AM)I think he even refers to himself in the third person on his website.
I'm not denying that I would be interested in seeing what he has, but for godssake, all this fuss? I tried watching Shadows, and I don't deny that for it's time, it was an achievement, but it's almost unwatchable now in its second version (In my opinion, of course). I can only imagine what the first one was like. -
rorygunn — 9 years ago(December 05, 2016 09:06 AM)
I don't think you're being harsh at all..I'll just say this..I was like everyone else and had stardust in my eyes when it came to Gena and never really understood or even believed Carney's POV until I dealt first hand with Gena and her handlers about a script I had written and wanted her to be a part of in a role I created especially for her then I got the picture and the bloom was off the roseI never confused Gena with John's work ever again