I read that Rod Taylor died at his home after a dinner party.
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hobnob53 — 11 years ago(January 13, 2015 08:39 PM)
"Debbie Downer"? Oh well.
It happens I agree with your hopes for Mr. Taylor's last evening. Certainly better than some terrible or protracted death. I just don't think an unoriginal clich like saying it's a great way to go is the right way to express it. No big deal. -
pouncemo — 11 years ago(January 14, 2015 07:15 AM)
Hi Hobnob - I get what you are saying about there being no really "great" way to go, unless it is in your sleep at 100, after living happily and healthily till the end.
Since most of us aren't going to get that luxury, a heart attack is probably THE way to go. In this respect, Rod was a very fortunate man.
When Mike Nichols died we thought that he was just so smiled upon in so many ways including not having to suffer the pain or the "knowing" of a terminal illness.
Of course I wish both men could have lived longer. These days early eighties is a long life, longer than most people get. But of course we wish it could have been early 90's, right? Or even older?
In the bi5b4g scheme of things, probably better to forego a few years for the sudden, "quick" heart attack. But as my husband always reminds me, "We don't get a vote". -
pouncemo — 11 years ago(January 16, 2015 12:26 AM)
Hi again Hobnob - totally agree. I'm one of those people who doesn't accept death very well, even in the elderly.
I guess you could say I "rage against the dying of the light." My older daughter teases me all the time saying, "oh mom, death is a part of life." Yeah, the f-ed up part, par5b4don my French.
Anyway, it was nice watching Rod's films knowing he was still among us. -
hobnob53 — 11 years ago(January 15, 2015 07:32 PM)
Your expression was
not
original by your own admission. I cite your second post:
It's a figure of speech.
Unless you're now claiming you invented the phrase "a great way to go", it is in no sense "original". And while you may quibble about it, "a figure of speech" is usually very definitely a clich.
I made a simple observation about the phrase you used. You can defend it of course, but I don't see any reason for all this carrying on about it. And yes, I include myself in that. This has now gotten pretty preposterous. Let's agree to disagree and drop it, shall we? -
DC1977 — 11 years ago(January 17, 2015 02:19 PM)
It's only carried on because you disagreed with me which you are entitled to do and most people on this thread have responded in turn to disagree with you (that ought to tell you something) which they are equally entitled to.
Before you said the expression 'a great way to go' was a clich rather than a figure of speech now you're saying a figure of speech is usually a clich.
So you're now contradicting yourself.
A figure of speech is not a clich. Look them up.
Let me quote you:
'Unless you're now claiming you invented the phrase "a great way to go", it is in no sense "original".'
What's your point?
That the phrase is a clich?
Are you now saying that every phrase that is not totally new to the history of the English language is a clich??
You don't know the difference between a figure of speech and a clich, you don't seem to know what either of them are and if you think that you can try to correct by people by posting stuff which is actually incorrect then you shouldn't be surprised to get a few responses back. -
hobnob53 — 11 years ago(January 15, 2015 07:37 PM)
Well, chefdonnag, you certainly seem to be playing your part in making it an even bigger deal, and immaturely nasty besides.
As I just wrote to the OP, this has gotten ridiculous on all sides, everyone's had their say, so why don't we all just let the matter drop? -
pt100 — 11 years ago(January 15, 2015 10:45 PM)
As someone else pointed out, the best way to go is probably during sleep. That way, you just go to sleep and never wake up, so you don't see it coming. As someone who has had both a mild heart attack and a full-blown coronary, I'd hardly say it is a great way to go. It's quite uncomfortable and disturbing, and it can last a while.
But it doesn't really matter, because as soon as someone is dead, they are no longer aware of how they went. Death ceases pain and memory of pain. From their "point of view" it's as though they never existed in the first place. I guess that's why they call it oblivion.
It is better to be kind than to be clever or good looking. Derek -
chefdonnag — 11 years ago(January 16, 2015 05:31 AM)
Oh Hobnob we are in a snit aren't we? I am neither nasty nor am I immature. You however are and continue to be tiresome.As I said not a big deal until you make it a big deal.Consider the the matter dropped. I won't bother responding to any of your dreary future posts.Have a lovely life and do try to cheer up dear.
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pouncemo — 11 years ago(January 17, 2015 11:37 PM)
Hobnob is a man of deep feeling. In my past experiences with him, he is quite the opposite of dreary or tiresome and has in fact been quite cheerful and humorous.
Some of us just have a harder time accepting death even when it comes to someone of advanced age (and even defining advanced age is difficult now days).
Rod had an amazing life. We were just hit hard by the loss. -
tika313 — 9 years ago(May 05, 2016 09:37 AM)
I agree the way he died was pretty close to being a "great" way to go. It's certainly preferable to what might have happened just two short weeks before. It's reported he had just come home from being hospitalized. I have to wonder if he played a bigger part in the outcome. It is ironic that his family and friends now111c have the memory of an intimate evening rather than one in clinical setting with strangers. RIP