With new evidence, that does bring light on the subject. He could have been responsible if she was unconscious when she
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Robert Wagner
youngsmells — 13 years ago(January 14, 2013 01:15 PM)
With new evidence, that does bring light on the subject. He could have been responsible if she was unconscious when she hit the water. We have new techniques of understanding this information. What do you think?
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js5905 — 13 years ago(January 14, 2013 07:34 PM)
there may have been bruises, from undetermined causes, but; he didn't kill her. she fell off the boat and drowned. if there was any evidence of anything- there would have been an arrest. I believe this boat captain is a hack raking up a buck. walken didn't know RJ well enough to lie for him- and vica versa. the whole idea is stupid.
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js5905 — 13 years ago(January 18, 2013 06:54 PM)
every one in Hollywood knows that RJ was so in love with her; he couldn't see his hand in front of his face. I truly believe he would never have harmed her in any way, and would have laid down his own life to save her if he thought she was drowning out there. cmon folks.
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smakdaddy99999 — 13 years ago(January 19, 2013 05:20 AM)
IT could also be why he killed her, albeit unintentionally or passionately.
It's a VERY tough case for prosecutors to prove. If the DA's office and the police want to bring charges against Robert Wagner for murder or manslaughter, they better cross their Ts and dot their Is, and they BETTER have the proofs. They have to make sure this is thoroughly investigated before they can bring charges against Wagner. If the DA's office can't convict OJ Simpson or Robert Blake, they sure as hell can't convict Robert Wagner unless they have foolproof, airtight evidence tying Wagner as the one responsible for the murder or manslaughter.
At best right now, it's probably going to be manslaughter charges against Wagner, and unless new evidence comes through, the DA's office will have a heck of a time convincing a jury or even a judge to convict Wagner.
Theoretically, the DA's office could prosecute Robert Wagner based on the Captain's words alone, but the Captain has absolutely zero credibility and the judge will dismiss the case for wasting everybody's times.
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rinahammon88 — 13 years ago(January 19, 2013 01:26 PM)
His story changed 3 times according to the LA sherif and according to the captain he said Robert new Natalie was screaming for help and Robert said good teach her a lesson, so if he didn't push her then he knew she was in the water and did nothing which is murder. He should be indicted for manslaughter
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smakdaddy99999 — 13 years ago(January 19, 2013 04:06 PM)
An overly ambitious prosecutor or DA could certainly pursue manslaughter charges against Robert Wagner. It's the Captain's word against Wagner's. The Captain's word is certainly enough for a manslaughter indictment. Whether that's enough for a conviction, it's doubtful in my opi5b4nion b/c the Captain's credibility is going to be a major issue for the jury to decide.
With that said, I'm very confident that the DA's office is working very hard to build a case against Robert Wagner. They will not file manslaughter charges unless they are certain they can get a conviction. They are probably trying to gather forensic evidence that will corroborate the Captain's story -
amyghost — 13 years ago(January 21, 2013 05:48 AM)
It speaks to me that, at 82 years old, the man has been hounded enough over this and doesn't wish to focus any more of the remainder of his life on attempting to satisfy the morbid curiosities of fan-ghouls who want to keep publicly trying him in the tabloids for murder, no matter how shaky (or non-existent) the evidence is to suggest he did so.
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amyghost — 13 years ago(January 21, 2013 05:52 AM)
//His story changed 3 times according to the LA sherif//
Davern's story has also changed numerous times, but that fact doesn't seem to convince you that HE might have killed her. So why does it take so apparently little to seemingly convince you Wagner did so? -
parisel — 13 years ago(March 07, 2013 08:55 PM)
Then why didn't the Captain go and help her himself? No matter what your boss says, you don't just say Yes Sir and let a woman dieAnd besides, he was the Captain. His word is law on board So he'd get fired. So what? He could have gotten another job back then..So he's good for manslaughter too. .I don't believe him, he's just trying to sell a book.
We'll never know what happened.
I guess it's like looking at clouds. You see one thing and I see anot5b4her. Peace. -
justajobtodo — 13 years ago(March 08, 2013 03:27 PM)
Davern did not know she was in the water, he was in the Salon with Wagner having drinks
SSR (supported by supplemental report).
There was no stateroom arguement
SSR.
There was no loud music
SSR.
There was no screaming for help
SSR and Wayne is a proven liar.
There was no delay in the search at 1:30 a.m.
SSR.
Wood left the boat with the dinghy and drifted with it until the end because they both ended up in the same location but seperated
SSR.