Fulci or Argento?
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torturechamberlain — 19 years ago(April 16, 2006 07:43 PM)
Dude, it's not a question of belief, but of opinion.
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romerorulz — 19 years ago(April 18, 2006 04:20 PM)
They are both really visionary directors. THey both have great films and both have VERY bad films (The bad films come towards the end of their careers). A lot of people look down on Fulci because he "only shows gore". Yes he has a lot of gore but he is also a great visual director. Argento's films seem more polished and Fulci's films seem more rough around the edges. I love both directors and I can't decide. I actually own more Fulci movies but a lot of them are bad like Demonia and Conquest. Both directors get thumbs up in my book and they are both on my top 5 favorite directors list.
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christianjlarocca — 17 years ago(October 06, 2008 05:02 PM)
New York Ripper is a bleak and relentless film. It's also a pretty entertaining giallo-meets-slasher story with some horrifying scenes. It's been beat up a lot by fans and detractors, alike, but I rank it among the best Fulci films (and yes, I've seen them all!)
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jrandazzofilms-1 — 19 years ago(May 28, 2006 12:11 AM)
Better than 99% of American horror directors? You must5b4 mean Argento, because as much as I love Fulci's work, he will NEVER touch John Carpenter or George Romero.
They are both Italian directors who make gory movies but that is where the similarities end. Argento is brilliant, Fulci makes some cool gore films but they can never compare to Argento. -
leathermusic — 19 years ago(July 04, 2006 11:07 AM)
I believe Fulci is the greatest italian director of horror films for his zombie quartet alone (zombie, house by the cemetery, city of the living dead, the beyond). Argento is amazing, but his films are slightly less gory AND slightly less scary. Also, Fulci tried out more genres and had less money. Fulci rules.
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Martialhorror — 19 years ago(July 13, 2006 04:43 AM)
Argento.
Fulci can possibly be better than Argento in his best works, but his crappier movies bring him down heavily.
Take Conquest, his directing sucked there. Four of the Apocalypse was okay, but nothing special. House of the Dead and New York ripper didnt have amazing visuals nor had a good story,although the directing was fine.
But Fulci's movies are either good or bad, Argento's usually to me, are good-to-average.
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Martialhorror — 19 years ago(July 14, 2006 01:38 PM)
Except the directing sucked as well.
Its possible Lucio to Conquest was like Craven to Cursed. But that doesnt change the fact he let his directing suck.
The lighting(and that stupid fog), the fight scenes, and alot of the cinematography sucked.
Also, the gore felt distracting and uneeded. Fulci should have left those early gore scenes out if he wasn't going to use them for the rest of the film. It was uber unneeded. But as I said, if the entire movie would have been like that, it would have been fine. Sort of like the ending death in "Dont Torture a duckling".
Pointless.
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Jiiimbooh — 19 years ago(July 15, 2006 08:51 AM)
I didn't think the directing was that bad. It was the script and the music that brought the movie down. Some scenes were somewhat suspensfull because of the good directing. The best directing in the movie was probably a quite early sequence in the cave. That sequence was in itself really good, even if the movie as a whole was disappointing.
The fog was a bit overused. If it had only been foggy in some of the scenes it wouldn't have been a problem. It actually contributes a bit to the fantasy landscape and atmosphere Fulci wanted to create with a really low budget.
"Cinematography by
Alejandro Ulloa (as Alejandro Alonso Garca)"
He's the one you should complain about if you don't like the cinemotography. Of course Fulci would have some say in the matter, but Ulloa was the one who was suppose to have the talent to make Fulci's vision come true.
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Martialhorror — 19 years ago(July 15, 2006 05:34 PM)
which cave scene? The one with the girls? I didn't like that any more than the rest of the film.
Things I did like
-The creatures: They looked cool.
-The scene which the young dude gets dragged down into the caves(dies not long after)
But unfortunatly, Fulci's directing served the script, which was beep House by the Cemetary and City of the Dead had lame scripts, but Fulci saved those with his directing.
Four of the Apocalypse had a REALLY beep script yet Fulci made that into a fairly good movie.
So you can't blame the script.
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Jiiimbooh — 19 years ago(July 19, 2006 07:09 AM)
SPOILERS CONQUEST
The cave sequence I mean is the one where the man and girl is looking at each other and also when she gets killed not that long after. I would have prefereb68d if she was alive a little longer, but I still thought the seqence was well-done.
END SPOILERS
House by the Cemetary and City of the Dead had lame scripts, but Fulci saved those with his directing.
House by the Cemetery and City of the Living Dead has much better music than Conquest though. The scripts for those movies actually has some interesting ideas, but they seemed to have rushed the writing, atleast for House by the Cemetery, which has some obvious flaws in the script. City of the Living Dead has a really good build-up but I didn't like the ending and thought it kind-off ruined the film. (Much of the footage from the ending was burnt up and they had to make something out of what they had left, so that would explain the poor ending.)
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Martialhorror — 19 years ago(July 19, 2006 12:50 PM)
- Oh, I di2000dn't think much of that scene despite being surprised she died(was sure she would be a main character..)
- The Music in conquest wasn't bad. It was just repetitive and I didnt care for the fact the guy was trying to tip off Frizzi. Nevertheless, Fulci isn't the composer. Are you saying the music is what makes his movies?
3)I didnt care for the ending either in City. But oh well.
"I hate PG-13 horror flicks"- THIS IS MY SIG GENIUSES!
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Jiiimbooh — 19 years ago(July 20, 2006 04:28 AM)
- The Music in conquest wasn't bad. It was just repetitive and I didnt care for the fact the guy was trying to tip off Frizzi. Nevertheless, Fulci isn't the composer. Are you saying the music is what makes his movies?
No, the music alone doesn't make his movies, but like always it's an important part. Even if the directing and script is good a movie can be brought down significantly if the music is terrible. On the other hand really good music can bring a movie up a bit. In City and House Fulci's directing and the music both helped to set the mood. In the case of Conquest I personally thought both the music and script was bad while the directing was pretty good.
One thing I didn't like about the music in Conquest was that it was too 1980s. That's perfectly OK if the movie is set in modern times, but with Conquest I thought it ruined the mood.
"What does it do?"
"It doesn't
do
anything. That's the beauty of it." - The Music in conquest wasn't bad. It was just repetitive and I didnt care for the fact the guy was trying to tip off Frizzi. Nevertheless, Fulci isn't the composer. Are you saying the music is what makes his movies?
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Martialhorror — 19 years ago(July 20, 2006 01:32 PM)
What exactly was good about Fulci's directing?
I can say the lighting, atmosphere, fight scenes, acting(yes, the director is partially at fault), some of the costumes and the special effects(at times) were bad.
I can't think of anything good. I'd say the gore, but due to it feeling random and out of place(if it was like that throughout the movie.), that actually hurt the movie. Much like the ending death in "Dont Torture a duckling", it was just not needed.
"I hate PG-13 horror flicks"- THIS IS MY SIG GENIUSES!