Rap Is Not Music
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tarquinh — 9 years ago(July 24, 2016 04:32 AM)
Describing the (disenchanting) chanting of Rap Music as singing or as music is indeed (in either case) a capital misnomer. Real Music is the careful arrangement of organized sounds in the form of notes that then result in a smooth blend of rhythm, tone, and pitch that when united, is quite pleasing to the ear. Rap is not music. The unpleasant-sounding horror is chaotic dissonance and certainly not elegant consonance. Rap is veritable noise pollution that is tastelessly amplified from a cumbersome boom box. Generally speaking, unlike black soul music and traditional black rhythm and blues, Rap is both heartless and soulless. Standard love songs show respect and consideration for a member of the opposite gender but most contemporary Rap lyrics promote a hedonistic me first ghetto survival theme that is cruelly perpetuated upon its afflicted listening audience.
When Rap songs first appeared I believed that the clamorous nonsense would be another fad phenomenon that would gradually vanish like 70s disco music had slowly but surely lost its clout (along with our attendant intrigue and curiosity). But unfortunately the dunce-like Rap lyrics herald the worst elements of society and the brazen inflammatory words glamorize sex, drugs, random and deliberate violence and gang intimidation themes that through-and-through reek with sexism, racism and the glorification of the ghetto mentality.
In most Rap song themes the dysfunctional dregs of the inner city are elevated to hero status while the entertainers sound like disgruntled grunting angry contemporary cavemen who are advocating the downfall of white America with vitriolic words expressing rage, rebellion and social revolution. This expansion of the easy-money anti-establishment ghetto mentality is fueling resentment and hostility among disenfranchised inner city youth as well as contaminating the gullible and vulnerable minds of suburban teens. But the entire reprehensible in-progress-brainwashing technique that Rap Music demonstrably utilizes is both a sham and a canard that is trafficking affected teens down a treacherous One-Way-Street that leads only to a permanent lackluster socio-economic cul-de-sac. What a pathetic and ignoble social disaster!
In the 50s and early 60s black rhythm and blues imaginatively captured the hopes, the dreams, the ideals and the aspirations of both white and black teens as portrayed in the quality music of Chuck Berry and Fats Domino. Early black music was a unifying force in America. True, Little Richards music was a tad rebellious but it was not downright dirty, immoral or degrading like modern rap is. The early 50s black artists songs paralleled the dreams of both white and black America and the entire country was basically on the same musical wavelength.
And then this constructive and positive racial parallelism continued into the early 60s with the establishment of Detroits Motown where both black and white society shared a common interest in radio renditions of the ideal boyfriend, the ideal girlfriend, the ideal teen relationship and the music beneficially emphasized the stability that typical teenage romance provided. The Temptations, the Supremes, the Shirelles, the Marvelettes, Stevie Wonder, Lionel Richie, Mary Wells, Smokey Robinson, The Four Tops and Martha and the Vandellas all espoused civilized relationships between males and females and their songs genuinely advanced the perpetuation of commonalities in our great American culture.
Ironically white performers were very instrumental in contributing to the origins of Rap Music. Certainly Blondies Debbie Harrys classic rendition of Rapture and the Beastie Boys amusing Fight For the Right To Party preceded the appearance of more radical rappers like Vanilla Ice and Eminem. And M.C. Hammers unique song Cant Touch This! gave Rap a happy monicker and the lively tune showed both versatility and great potential for the development of new sounds in the recording industry. But then Run DMC, Public Enemy, Ludacris (Whatever happened to standard spelling?), 50 Cent (Whatever happened to the idea of plural usage in English grammar? I mean, Ive heard of one cent!) and oh yes, Eminem and other rappers gradually emerged and began shouting and ranting words that featured intimidation, class conflict, hatred of authority (including police, parents and teachers), defiance, insolence, animosity, conflict and racial divisiveness.
Rap Music is both uninspiring and generally counterproductive to the good of the order. The scurrilous pox lionizes a mediocre ghetto existence as the epitome of human pursuit. Rap Music is essentially non-creative no matter how creative its performers think they are in writing it or in presenting it. And the rappers have the unmitigated audacity to describe themselves as artists. Well, Michelangelos, Leonardo Da Vincis, Picassos and Rembrandts most of those arrogant buffoons are not. And few rappers can actually sing a strong note like Elvis Presley, Johnny Mat -
!!!deleted!!! (28073428) — 9 years ago(September 08, 2016 02:32 PM)
1st, look up the word music in Dictionary.com. 2nd, some rap artists actually care about making a good change in the world economically, environmentally, and/or politically through their songs. 3rd, rap music can be a healthy challenge for some people. By the way, Eminem's daughter, Hailie, had a 3.9 GPA when she graduated in high school and is now focusing on a highly intellectual path professionally. This is probably because Eminem supported her financially from his constant working in order to keep his family protected so they stopped suffering as much. Eminem is not completely selfish, stupid, and toxic. He lived in a bad environment when he grew up. Being able to become a music man helped change his life around into a healthier one. He cleaned himself from drugs, bad relationships, alcohol binging, etc. You can say rap is not music all you want. But, maybe you will listen to "Not Afraid" by this rapper and understand that he is a bit like everyone. Especially YOU.
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lukejbarnett — 5 years ago(September 25, 2020 05:27 AM)
exactly i mean it's really music bc it doesn't have singing and it has rapping. and bc it has nothing really original as far as music. no guitar, drumming, keyboarding, it's all sampling and using other people's choruses and melodies.
one of the worst parts of rap music is the rappers using, copying other songs' melodies, ex. islands in the stream chorus from kenny rogers and dolly parton they ripped off in the song ghetto superstar. also, the chorus forget me nots was ripped off by will smith as we are the men in black. this shouldn't be allowed. it's called copyright infringement.
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lukejbarnett — 1 year ago(January 25, 2025 05:15 AM)
yeah i mean can you prove it's music? it's musical but i can't prove it's music bc it doesn't have that much creativity or musicality in it. and you need these thing to make it music.
and this is exactly why people have always disrespected it and said it's not good and it's just a fad that will go away. people have always downplayed that it is important and people have always not respected it as adults.
i mean all the people defending rap as music should ask themselves if it really is important and music then why do people 50 and older never listen to it anymore or never have listened to it? that proves it is childish and something everyone grows out of as they get older.
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Howlin Wolf — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 12:47 PM)
Cool. It would be great if you developed your own thoughts instead of parroting somebody else's, but perhaps that would stretch the limits of your intelligence
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This is the Kersal mandem Cmack yeah featuring little ****ing Kev yeah, over there in the corner is our boy ginger joe.
Hello, My name is Cmack, this is Kevin and sitting over there in the corner is our good friend Joseph who is of strawberry hair, we are from Kersal.
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AnthonySocksssss — 1 year ago(March 04, 2025 10:03 PM)
Did you know rapping originated from “toasting” in Jamaican reggae?
A good example of a pop song with toasting would be red red wine by UB40.
I personally find toasting to be more melodic, but that’s just because I’m not a huge fan of the disco/r&b backing of most hip hop/rap.
I think rap/hip hops heyday was in the 80s and 90s with groups like Grandmaster Flash, De La Soul, Geto Boyz, Tribe Called Quest, Wu Tang Clan, and OutKast. Before Kanye and Drake came along and ruined the genre. -
Wu Ming — 1 year ago(March 04, 2025 11:02 PM)
AnthonySocksssss March 05, 2025 07:03 AM
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Did you know rapping originated from “toasting” in Jamaican reggae?
A good example of a pop song with toasting would be red red wine by UB40.
UB40 Red, Red Wine (Extended Version)
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I personally find toasting to be more melodic, but that’s just because I’m not a huge fan of the disco/r&b backing of most hip hop/rap.
I think rap/hip hops heyday was in the 80s and 90s with groups like Grandmaster Flash, De La Soul, Geto Boyz, Tribe Called Quest, Wu Tang Clan, and OutKast. Before Kanye and Drake came along and ruined the genre.
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Wu Ming — 1 year ago(March 05, 2025 03:36 AM)
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