Cannot act
-
jayj_leigh-551-602834 — 13 years ago(February 08, 2013 02:38 PM)
Lol, obviously you have no clue about casting.. It's done by LOOKS aka vinnie jones looks hench and generally sulky so he gets the role as there big mean guy
They ain't gonna cast someone who can actually act if he's 4'2 and cute looking :')
One of the reasons daniel Radcliffe why was such a poor poor choice of Harry potter -
d-graph — 12 years ago(May 17, 2013 07:02 AM)
Lol, obviously you have no clue about casting.. It's done by LOOKS aka vinnie jones looks hench and generally sulky so he gets the role as there big mean guy
Come on, think about it. Everybody knows that there are millions of good looking people living on Earth. So, by your logic, a large portion of these people would have been casted EASILY and QUICKLY. Now, that'd be too unfeasible, don't you think?
Again, one person requires skills of acting in order to be casted. Sure, looks is a bonus, but acting skills are more important. It's only your opinion if you don't like his acting. Nothing more or less, whether you like it or not. Your opinion means nothing because the directors / producers who hire Vinne don't agree with your opinion. So, get over it. -
jayj_leigh-551-602834 — 12 years ago(May 17, 2013 10:16 AM)
You seem to be under the impression that I me111cntioned my opinion on Vinnie jones' acting.
And it does work like that, the casters will pick a few people who 'look' the part then screen test based on acting ability and chemistry with the other actors in the other parts
The films Vinnie tends to be in though are a very specific genre with a smaller circle of 'names' that are involved, both directors and actors, therefore Vinnie - I am sure - will have been envisaged by the writers (to act the role or to find someone similar looking in terms of build etc) due to his experience and, overall, appearance as they know they can depend on him producing a certain outcome of performance based on his past works
Clearly you have no idea about the casting process, and also appear to be unable to read :S -
d-graph — 12 years ago(May 17, 2013 01:06 PM)
You seem to be under the impression that I mentioned my opinion on Vinnie jones' acting.
What? You had commented:
Lol, obviously you have no clue about casting.. It's done by LOOKS aka vinnie jones looks hench and generally sulky so he gets the role as there big mean guy
Therefore, your opinion was created by implying that Vinnie doesn't need to be talented in order to be casted. Your comment couldn't be any more accurate to prove my point.
Also, denying that you "mentioned" your opinion on Vinnie is pretty ironic considering when you had blatantly "mentioned" that Daniel Radcliffe was a poor choice for Harry Potter.
And it does work like that, the casters will pick a few people who 'look' the part then screen test based on acting ability and chemistry with the other actors in the other parts
The films Vinnie tends to be in though are a very specific genre with a smaller circle of 'names' that are involved, both directors and actors, therefore Vinnie - I am sure - will have been envisaged by the writers (to act the role or to find someone similar looking in terms of build etc) due to his experience and, overall, appearance as they know they can depend on him producing a certain outcome of performance based on his past works
Wait, get me get this straight. In your first comment, you didn't make any hint, suggestion or statement that actors/actresses need to have acting abilities (as well) in order to be casted. Now, your2000 last comment is totally the opposite. Either you're being a bit too defensive, too afraid to admit defeat or you simply don't know how to stop contradicting yourself.
My previous argument is still correct. Everybody knows that directors and producers choose which actors/actresses to fit the roles, duh. But they cannot just simply choose any person BASED on his/her looks and get it over with. It doesn't work like that, buddy. The "chosen" actros/actresses are REQUIRED to KNOW how to act. You cannot expect a perfect looking person that fits a main role perfectly and then act like an automatic retard on screen. Nobody will like that.
Clearly you have no idea about the casting process, and also appear to be unable to read :S
That's funny. Accusing me of being unable to read, when your comments are the only things that are filled with contradictions and you cannot even bring up with any effective counter argument.
You don't need to be an expert in movie making to know about the casting process. It's common sense, really. And finally, if you didn't mean to imply that actors don't need to be skilled in order to be casted, perhaps you need to express yourself properly next time then. -
jayj_leigh-551-602834 — 12 years ago(May 17, 2013 02:23 PM)
Lol implying my opinions when you have no idea who I am, where I am from, my views etc is ridiculous, initially I was incredibly humoured by your attack on the op essentially placing your opinion above the others by implying theirs was less valid than yours
Then you ignore everything I initially wrote suggesting I believe only good looking people are in the acting business when I actually said 'looks' as in facial features, body build etc and how casting is based on fulfilling the role's stereotype, and I then you fabricate my beliefs on vj's acting ability
Then you continue to contradict yourself with false and inappropriate objections, highlighting your inability to read and/or process written information suggesting that my opinion on Daniel radcliffe's acting ability therefore determines my opinion on Vinnie Jones' and in addition you attack my response to your ignorance defensively and disproportionately..
I suggest you learn to read, learn about acting and casting processes and most importantly, calm down, before you continue replying to my posts -
d-graph — 12 years ago(May 17, 2013 05:12 PM)
Lol implying my opinions when you have no idea who I am, where I am from, my views etc is ridiculous,
What does expressing an opinion have to do with identity and location? We are talking about Vinnie and his acting here, not about yourself. You can act like an e-tough person for all I care but it's not going to work here.
initially I was incredibly humoured by your attack on the op essentially placing your opinion above the others by implying theirs was less valid than yours
Not really, but so what? Ever hear of freedom of speech? Besides that, if you're asserting that you're right and that I'm wrong, then you're a huge hypocrite.
Then you ignore everything I initially wrote suggesting I believe only good looking people are in the acting business
Are you really that delusional? Let me repeat, you said:
It's done by LOOKS aka vinnie jones looks hench and generally sulky so he gets the role as there big mean guy
7ecThey ain't gonna cast someone who can actually act if he's 4'2 and cute looking :')
Which SUGGESTS that looks > acting skills in your original tone. This suggestion of yours IMPLIES that a person doesn't need acting skills in order to be casted. It's not my problem if you cannot clarify or express properly to make your intentions less subtle.
And the irony is that you've had changed your story in your later comment regarding the acting abilities, which is a clear contradiction towards your first comment in the thread.
when I actually said 'looks' as in facial features, body build etc and how casting is based on fulfilling the role's stereotype, and I then you fabricate my beliefs on vj's acting ability
You've just made yourself look like an idiot, then. In my previous comments, I had never claimed or impiled that looks were meaningless; rather, I had claimed that acting skills were more important. If Vinnie literally cannot act at all, there's no way the directors / producers would have never picked him to fit the roles in the first place.
The only reason why I didn't clarify looks is because it's irrelevant anyway. Pretty much everybody knows that directors or producers choose certain actors / actresses that match the roles. It's part of human nature and common writing. Even a person with a half brain knows this. Hiring a weak and old actress (Meryl Streep for example) that fits the main role of a tough-badass chainsaw villain? Give me a break.
And I didn't "fabricate" anything. Your comments said it all. Your own words, not mine.
Then you continue to contradict yourself with false and inappropriate objections, highlighting your inability to read and/or process written information
Can you show me where in my comments did I contradict? Or what did I say that was false or inappropriate? Oh, right, you can't. Next time, pl2000ease think of a better comeback to say other than copying my legitimate words/arguments.
suggesting that my opinion on Daniel radcliffe's acting ability therefore determines my opinion on Vinnie Jones'
You really can't read. I only said that it was funny of you to deny the fact about you making an implication about Vinne when you've also judged Daniel Radcliffe for being a poor choice in HP. Are you going to deny that too? LOL.
I suggest you learn to read, learn about acting and casting processes and most importantly, calm down, before you continue replying to my posts
Enlighten me, then. I'll be waiting for you. And by the way, you spewing words out of your ass just proves that you have nothing better to say. Next time when you use the same words, at least back them up. -
irishmaeve17 — 11 years ago(October 30, 2014 11:10 PM)
Its nicholas cage in gone in sixty seconds as nicholas cage. Its nicholas cage in face off as nicholas cage. Its nicholas cage in the rock as nicholas cage. Its nicholas cage in con air as nicholas cagewith a bad accent. And your complaining about vinnie jones being a bad actor? At least he doesnt try to be anything but what he is.a goon.
-
Thenewnexus — 11 years ago(October 31, 2014 11:52 PM)
Hes actually underrated as an actor I wish he was getting bigger and better parts,Vinnie is the best part of most of the movies hes in(Shes The Man,The Last Stand and The Condemned although Stone Cold Steve Austin was great in that too)
You want tah fack wit me? You ah fACKING chioah boi compahed tu me ah chioah boi