Has she ever explained why 'Jane Seymour'?
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xenaevegabby — 18 years ago(September 24, 2007 11:28 AM)
Jane Seymour has a familiar sound to it.people would hear her name and be like"hmmthat sounds familiar." Of course, now everybody knows, oh yeah, Henry VIII. She didn't want to keep her original first name, because it sounded so much like frankenfurter and frankenstein.
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kristie_rainbowgirl — 18 years ago(October 26, 2007 03:59 PM)
Her full birth name is:
Joyce Penelope Wilhelmina Frankenberg
Now with a name like that who wouldn't want to change it when going into the movie business. Actually I think the Joyce Penelope part is very pretty, not sure about the last two names.
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queststar — 18 years ago(December 10, 2007 01:47 PM)
I can imagine that her third name, Wilhelmina, has got something to do with her partly Dutch origins. Wilhelmina was the name of the Dutch queen in the second World War
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ContinentalOp — 18 years ago(December 24, 2007 01:09 PM)
"Joyce Penelope Wilhelmina Frankenberg
Now with a name like that who wouldn't want to change it when going into the movie business. Actually I think the Joyce Penelope part is very pretty, not sure about the last two names."
Nothing wrong with her birth name though it could have been shortened (e.g. Joyce Frankenberg, Penelope Frankenberg, Wilhellmina Frankenberg etc).
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myyankees — 18 years ago(January 18, 2008 08:27 AM)
Anne Boelyn, Henry's second wife WAS beheaded, that's what the original poster was referring to. But the British have a fondness for Jane Seymour because it's theorized that she was the only wife of Henry's that he truly loved and grieved over.
In case you're curious it went like this:
Catherine Parr, mother of Mary, divorced by Henry.
Anne Boelyn, mother of Elizabeth, beheaded for adultery and treason.
Jane Seymour, mother of Edward, died due to childbirth, if I remember right it wasn't for like a few weeks or even a month after Edwards birth, I could be wrong on that.
Catherine Howard, divorced - it's a funny story actually.
Anne of Cleves - beheaded.
Catherine of Aragon, out lived Henry and married Thomas Seymour (related to Jane, don't remember how)
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kitra — 18 years ago(February 21, 2008 04:41 PM)
You've got two of the Katherine/Catherines mixed up - Katherine of Aragon was the first wife who bore Henry's daughter Mary.
Katherine Parr was his last wife, and Thomas Seymour was one of Jane Seymour's brothers and uncle to the young King Edward. -
myyankees — 18 years ago(February 21, 2008 06:23 PM)
Yeah I know, I didn't grab any books I was just going from memory though I should have remembered the Parr thing, whoever plays her in the movie Young Bess is really pretty and I like the character.
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Rockie710 — 12 years ago(August 01, 2013 02:43 AM)
Actually, you have Henry VIII's wives quite out of order.
1)CATHERINE OF ARAGON was the mother of Mary. Catherine had been the widow of Henry's brother, and Henry had obtained special dispensation from the Pope in Rome to marry Catherine after his brother's death. This was a major political alliance, as Catherine was the daughter of Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain. When she failed to produce a male heir, Henry sought to divorce Catherine in order to marry Anne Boleyn. It was this divorce that caused Henry to split from the Catholic Church and establish the Church of England, when the Pope subsequently refused to declare his earlier ruling invalid and allow Henry to annul the marriage.
2)ANNE BOLEYN, mother of Elizabeth, was charged with adultery and treason and beheaded, although confessions were obtained from her suspected "lovers" only after they had endured days of torture and been promised their freedom in exchange for their admissions of guilt(they were all executed!) Most historians agree that no real evidence existed to substantiate any of the charges against her.
3)JANE SEYMOUR did develop what was then referred to as "bed fever" (probably a sepsis, or 'blood infection' due to an unclean delivery) after Edward's birth and did linger for several days before dying. As someone has already suggested, Jane Seymour does seem to have been the one wife for whom Henry truly grieved.
4)ANNE OF CLEVES was "too ugly to look at" in Henry's words. Anne was not from the relative wealth of the English court, but from the modest German principality of Cleves. Being a German (Lutheran) Protestant, her dress and adornment were very plain and simple, more in the style of the Puritans than the English Court. It has been suggested that by this time Henry's medical problems and obesity probably had begun to render him impotent, and it is likely that "too ugly to look at" actually meant that he was unable to become sexually aroused with Anne. He divorced her, but did set her up in one of his houses, and they grew to be great friends. Henry referred to Anne of Cleves as his "dear sister." Anne survived Henry, and he provided for her handsomely in his will.
5)KATHRYN HOWARD was very young and VERY sexually experienced prior to her marriage to Henry, and she mistook his almost certain impotency for stupidity and/or senility. Kathryn assumed Henry would not know of her many dalliances in and around the palace. But in HER case, there was no shortage of people who were more than happy to testify to Kathryn's escapades. Presented with clear and convincing evidence of adultery, a treasonous act, Henry signed the order for Kathryn's execution and she was beheaded.
6)CATHERINE PARR was Henry's sixth, and surviving, wife. Already in her 30's when she caught Henry's eye, Catherine had nursed two previous husbands through their final illnesses. Catherine was no innocent virginal schoolgirl. Educated far beyond what was customary for a woman of the day, Catherine would engage Henry in lively debates, keeping his mind off his various aches and pains. It was Catherine Parr who, acting as Regent in Henry's absence with the Royal Navy, ordered the Church's Prayer Book be translated into English, so that the people could participate in the worship service. This led to her detractors' accusing her of treason as well, but Catherine was clever enough to persuade Henry that she had in no way been disloyal to him. Engaged to Thomas Seymour (Jane's brother and the Commander of Henry's Royal Navy) prior to her marriage to Henry, Catherine and Tom were smart enough to stay clear of each other when he was in Court, and Henry was smart enough to keep Tom out of England for most of his marriage to Catherine. Following Henry's death, Catherine and Tom were married. Catherine, too, died of a bed fever following the birth of her daughter, Elizabeth Seymour. -
childgaia7 — 12 years ago(April 03, 2014 01:20 AM)
Actually the order of wives goes like this. 1. Kathryn of Aragon, devoutly religious and mother of Princess Mary, later known as bloody Mary. 2. Anne Boelyn, protestant mother of Princess Elizabeth, later Queen Elizabeth the 1st, Anne beheaded on the false grounds of adultery, actually it was cause she could not give Henry a son. 3. Jane Seymour who finally did give Henry the son he wanted, Edward,who was always a sickly child died at the age of 16. Jane died shortly after. 4. Anne of Cleves a german princess who Henry found so repulsive the marriage was dissolved shortly 5b4after. 5. Catherine Howard who was a very young and wayward girl who took her liberties as Queen a little too lightly and was also charged with adultery, beheaded. 6. Catherine Parr, a divorcee married Henry in later years, a more mature woman who nursed Henry until his death. She married Thomas Seymour who had been in love with each other years before but were both married to other people at the time. Now they were free to marry. Had to correct your comment as it was all over the place and inaccurate. Studied a lot about the Tudors so there you go.
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melaniesands-1 — 11 years ago(October 21, 2014 07:56 AM)
Catherine Howard was beheaded. Anne of Cleves was divorced after an arranged marriage because Henry VIII thought she was too ugly and that she had "bad smells around her person". She later on became friends with Henry VIII and with his children.