Only his features, of course
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podwilliams — 16 years ago(September 25, 2009 02:24 PM)
You can take Abigail out of the chipshop but you can't take the chipshop out of Abigail.
Hmm, substitute any ethnic epithet for your euphemism for proletarian - 'chipshop' - and look what we have.
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podwilliams — 16 years ago(September 26, 2009 09:07 AM)
I didn't miss them, but was instead petrified in the presence of your 'know your place', quasi-Nietzschean declaration about remaining rooted to one's origins. Squeeth, who, this side of a social revolution, would actually choose to be working class? This recalls the anti-humanism of the environmentalist movement, whose visions of 'sustainable development' and 'fair trade' consign millions to 'stick to their roots', which, for greens, translates as the bucolic idyll of being 'closer to nature', while for the vast majority of the earth's population it means being closer to death.
The grasping opportunism that we're all aware of, and which Mike Leigh has caricatured in the aristocratic pretensions of the 'nouveau-riche' and aspirant petit-bourgeoisie, is one thing, but the fact that a desire to want more, to improve oneself, to escape one's sociological origins can be perverted by the ideological and cultural norms of bourgeois society is not an arguments to 'stay true' to a class (in the sense in which you've suggested), unless of course, like all moral and political conservatives, left and right, you just don't want things to change (something that, when listening to Leigh's DVD commentaries, he's guilty of more than most).
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podwilliams — 16 years ago(September 27, 2009 04:51 AM)
Being loyal to your roots is the opposite of knowing your place. The corollary of knowing your place is aping the pretentions of the bourgeoisie, without the equipment.
This is just a mess of nonsense and non sequiturs. I'm sure
you
know what you mean, but it has no explanatory value for the rest of us. 'Loyalty to your roots' has a rough 'n' ready authenticity about it, but it has no political import. Working class solidarity; active allegiance to the working class; class consciousness, whereby one becomes conscious of the need for the working class to be a class
for
itself, and not just a
mass
in itself* - now, these things mean something, regardless of their pertinence to the current political landscape.
In the meantime, I'd be as happy for you to, say, win millions of pounds on The Lottery as I would anyone else. And not having any real reason to doubt your radical political credentials I'm perhaps more confident than you seem to be that wealth would do no injury to said principles.
Ferraris for all!!
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*Hal Draper made the point that 'class in itself/class for itself' was a mistranslation of Marx, the original being closer to 'mass-in-itself/class-for-itself'. The correct translation only makes the point clearer.
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voided-1 — 16 years ago(December 13, 2009 05:17 AM)
Ratings out of 10:
Happy-go-Lucky (2008) 10
Vera Drake (2004) 8
All or Nothing (2002) 10
Topsy-Turvy (1999) 7
Career Girls (1997) 10
Secrets & Lies (1996) 10
Naked (1993) 10
Life Is Sweet (1990) 8/10 10
High Hopes (1988) 10
Bleak Moments (1971) 10
This possibly isn't very helpful. I'm a bit of a fan.
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allisonalmodovar — 16 years ago(March 12, 2010 08:51 AM)
- Happy-Go-Lucky (2008) 9.5/10
- Secrets & Lies (1996) 9/10
- Life Is Sweet (1990) 8/10
- All or Nothing (2002/I) 8/10
- Grown-Ups (1980) TV episode"BBC2 Playhouse" (1 episode, 1980) 7.5/10
- A Sense of History (1992) (TV) 7.5/10
- High Hopes (1988) 7/10
- Topsy-Turvy (1999) 7/10
- Who's Who (1979) TV episode 6.5/10
- "Five Minute Films" (1975) TV series 6/10-7/10
- Abigail's Party (1977) TV episode 6/10
- Vera Drake (2004) 6/10
- The Short & Curlies (1987) (TV) 6/10
- Career Girls (1997) 6/10
- Home Sweet Home (1982) TV episode 6/10
- Four Days in July (1985) (TV)6/10
- The Kiss of Death (1977) TV episode 6/10
- Nuts in May (1976) TV episode 6/10
- Hard Labour 5/10
- Naked (1993) 5/10
- Meantime (1984) (TV) 5/10
- Bleak Moments (1971) 5/10
I'll stick Another Year in between Vera Drake and The Short & Curlies. It was entertaining but not substantial.
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miran_kor — 16 years ago(March 13, 2010 12:03 AM)
Thanks for your rates, Allison. Much appreciated.
Nice to see you thought of me.
Your list is beyond impressive and should be very useful to me (still haven't seen a thing - aside from 'Life Is Sweet' ages ago - by Leigh sigh).
vivaLuis
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UnoMasseisi — 15 years ago(November 14, 2010 05:07 AM)
Happy-Go-Lucky (2008)
7/10
Vera Drake (2004)
8/10
All or Nothing (2002)
7/10
Topsy-Turvy (1999)
N/S
Career Girls (1997)
N/S
Secrets & Lies (1996)
8/10
Naked (1993)
8/10
Life Is Sweet (1990)
6/10
High Hopes (1988)
N/S
Bleak Moments (1971)
N/S
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Lynchs — 15 years ago(December 02, 2010 01:40 PM)
Miran, add Another Year (2010)
btw, only one
Vera Drake (2004)
8/10
1930-2010
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur2475289/lists