I Still Love You, David
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RustyL — 15 years ago(November 15, 2010 07:28 PM)
I never said Jack died from a DUI. The man died because the bleached blonde bimbo he left his wife and oldest son for, threw him out when she was done with him.
What I was referring to was the well known fact that his paternal grandm7ecother had mental issues, that saw her hospitalized on at least one occasion. Instead of getting proper medical attention, back then it was customary to lock the person away and the "CURE" was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy worse then the illness.
I DO NOT want David to die in his 60's. I want him to live to a ripe old age. I have been a fan of his for over 40 years and love him too much to see him waste away.
And and it was a well known fact when Jack was found there was a bunch of empty bottles in the apartment and he died from falling asleep with a lit cigarette in his hands.
IF he had been able to, he would have been able to waken himself BEFORE he burned to death!!!! -
coconn04 — 15 years ago(November 13, 2010 08:52 AM)
I have been working on a site called findadeath.com and the information you have is wrong.
Jack thought it would be best for Shirley and HIm to separate after his nervous breakdown. Jack was hospitalized so it wasn't like he wasn't being treated. here is the Shirley JOnes article if you want to read it.
http://www.cmongethappy.com/interviews/sj/index.html
What events finally made you decide that the marriage wasnt going to work?
SJ: Jack had a breakdown. A real mental breakdown. He was manic depressive. But he was the one that wanted the divorce. He thought it was better for me and the kids. I never did. I would have hung in there. I felt in many ways he was acting strangely and doing strange things and he felt perhaps it was better for all of us.
GH: Recent TV specials and movies seemed to focus on the "dark" side of Jack. Obviously there was quite a "bright" side as well. Rather than focus on the dark, what can you tell us of the bright?
SJ: He was an incredible human being. Incredibly talented, number one! He had this charisma that, when he walked in the room, not only women fell all over him, but men did too. He attracted everybody. He had a great, great sense of humor, which of course was the first attraction for me. Obviously Im attracted to men with a sense of humor! (Laughs) Thats the biggest thing. Not to mention he was as handsome as he was. For me, that was the least of it. The fact that he could make jokes about himself and that he didnt take himself that seriously made him interesting and exciting.
HERE IS ANOTHER INTERVIEW with Shirley. Jack and Shirley did want to reconcile before Jack's death.
Shirley Jones said in a recent interview, " He wanted to come back to me right up until the day he died," she said. "And I wanted him. That's the terrible part. Much as I love Marty (Ingels) and have a wonderful relationship - I'd say this is Marty were sitting here - I'm not sure if Jack were alive, I'd be married to him."
WHy do you believe David? Even from the accident you can tell he lies all the time!
Anyway I pushed to get Jack's blood alchohal level. The police report sad that there was no alchohal at the scene and his Alchohal level was .12%. The legal limt was .10 so this is just barely.
ITs not like David at .14 with a half emty bottom of bouban in the back.JAck so very good reviews for plays and his work even towards the end. ITs not like David playing the has-been circuit. No wonder he drinks
HEre is what the police reports said
Not known if decedent was drinking liquor.
His body was taken to the Coroner as John Doe 257
Toxicology puts his blood alcohol level at 0.12%.
David Cassidy lies about Jack Cassidy.
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RustyL — 15 years ago(November 18, 2010 07:02 PM)
I didn't say anything in my first post about Jack, you did. As far as Jones goes, I'd believe her as far as I can throw her. I have disliked this woman for 40 years. I'm not about to change that fact now.
I also never said David didn't need help,but his FORMER stepmother should keep her opinions to herself.
What I DO know is this:
Jack Cassidy died a few short months BEFORE his 50th birthday. Dying at 50 is senseless and unnecessary. There is no reason on earth for him to have died so young.
So, my question is this: IF he was NOT drunk, why did he burn to death. The remains had to be identified through dental records. Jack's car was not there, so the first thought was he was away for the weekend. He let a friend borrow his car.
Also, where do get that David lies about Jack? I never heard him say one bad thing about his father. He wanted his love and support which is what any parent should give their child. His mother moved to California, so David could spend time with Jack when David was 10.
He had nothing but praise for the man. Also, Jack had given him a ring with the Cassidy family crest on it, that disappeared. David was upset when the ring was gone.
THIS is what happens when you've been a fan as long as I have. You revel in their achievements, worry when they're hurting or in trouble. And grief when they hurt themselves.
If my still loving David even though he got a DUI offends you, then that's your problem to get over. I've loved him for 40 years. I most likely will til the day I die. That isb68 not about to change. -
coconn04 — 15 years ago(November 19, 2010 06:08 AM)
Jack died in a time when a lot of things that have now been proven to be flammable have been pulled off the market. Cigarettes did not extinguish themselves right away. Jack was sitting by the fire place and may have mistaken the smell fo fire to be from that.
The cause of the fire was unknown actually the the cigarette was just a guess. It was Xmas time and it could have been a defected ornament.
Jack did try to get out and he passed out from lack of oxygen.
People die in fires all the time. Do you think they are all drunk?
The incident I am referring to when you said don't turn out like your dad.
The scene that you mentioned was taken from David's movie where they show Jack Surrounded by bottles and then passing out.
That was a lie.
There was no liquor found at the scene.
A level of .12 when you are sitting at home in your living room is not a significant amount.
The fire only took 15 minutes to put out.
David was driving around with a .14 and lied to the police.
That is much worse.
That is my argument.
Why do you believe David? He wasn't around Jack the last two years of his life when Shirley and her kids were.
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RustyL — 15 years ago(November 19, 2010 10:43 AM)
Number one: when Jack was found he was laying on his couch/sofa,etc.
As far as the beer bottles, no it was NOT from the movie. The last scene of Jack, in the movie, was in a hotel room with Shirley, before the divorce. I heard about the bottles in Dec. of 76, when the man died, alone in his apartment.
As far as what i said about turning out like his dad. Uh, Jack died at a young 49. David is 60. Yes, that is older than 49, but also relatively young, especially if you happen to be 53.
So, if Jack had been sitting in his car, he'd have been drunk, but not in his apartment.
Oh and THIS is what I found at findadeath
http://www.findadeath.com/Deceased/c/Jack Cassidy/jack_cassidy.htm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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coconn04 — 15 years ago(November 20, 2010 04:51 AM)
You have to go to the message board at FINDADEATH.com that is where Jack's articles are. Jack is on page 2 (Actors and Actresses)
Jack was found near the porch. Scott initially had him at the door. A lot of information in the directory have been corrected. Scott just kind of added information at time when along and the article read very disjointed.
Jack alchohol level was .12 at a time when the legal limit was .10. A lot has been done to raise awareness of drinking and driving since then the limit was lowered.
For the time Jack as not what you call drunk. Passed out drunk is .20.
BY the way Smoke Detection was still primitive in 1976.
The report that Scott later added if you look near the bottton said that there was no alchohal found at the seen.
The point I am trying to make is that you are238 making a bad comparison by comparing David to Jack.
David was caught weaving in and out of lanes, A small red car had to stop suddenly. HE had alchohal on his breath and couldn't walk straight.
Jack was a 4 pack a day smoker since his teens and that was his major health problem. RIght now Danny Bonaduce, who is 52, is being told the same thing and Danny is wearing the nicotine patches all the time. Danny has asthma.
BY the way, there was a disclAIMER at the end of David's movie if you think there is any truth to it.
Closing b68credits indicate the "Story" is not necessarily all that true and that certain characters are composites.
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joeeeeyyyyy53 — 15 years ago(December 01, 2010 01:35 PM)
coconn your a psycho. you make all of these crazy posts bashing cassidy while being wierdly obsessed and knowledgeable about him and his family. its creepy. GET A FREAKIN LIFE. whether hes a good guy or bad guy i dont know and i dont care. its his business. but its clear you have some personal insane vendetta against this guy unlike anything ive ever seen before
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coconn04 — 15 years ago(December 02, 2010 06:03 AM)
Its a hobby. I have other things to do if that makes you feel better. I know it is controversial. I have seen people take the high road for a long time. It doesn't work.
Time for bad publicity.
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coconn04 — 15 years ago(December 02, 2010 09:12 AM)
Before this he was giving bad concerts and insulting his fans.
I am sick of all this David has the flu or he is not feeling well crap.
HE IS NOT GETTING THE HELP HE NEEDS.
People spend good hard earned money at those things.
I guess if you were the subject of David's wrath it would be another thing.
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joeeeeyyyyy53 — 15 years ago(December 02, 2010 09:42 AM)
idk cause i don't spend my time going to all these concerts for a guy who was famous 40 years ago.. what i do know is that i went to high school with his son and hes one of the nicest dudes ive ever met
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coconn04 — 15 years ago(December 03, 2010 06:01 AM)
I think Beau seems like a nice kid. I have heard mixed reviews about David personally. David does go into his concerts messing up and insulting people who pay to see him.
This thread was started by someone who said, don't turn out like your father David.
Well David's father's blood alchohol level .12 when the legal limit was .10.Jack was sleeping, not past out drunk.
David alchohol level was .14 and he was driving around and David is pleading innocent.
I know the facts of the case of Beau's grandfather death and David goes around making up stories about it.
I heard from someone who talked to Beau about this. They were recently trying to collect money to get Jack a star on the WALK OF FAME.
David agreed to cooperate and then he was doing things that undermined the efforts.
The word I got was that Beau is heartsick over the way David treats people.
Jack did a lot to help people. He has two grandchildren named after him.
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joeeeeyyyyy53 — 15 years ago(December 03, 2010 08:47 AM)
i know that he loves his dad. idk about the anger he had towards him but i know for a fact that they have a good relationship because ive seen it. something that you cant say. you have all this crazy stuff that your saying all because of word of mouth which is rediculous. to be honest ive never even heard of jack who you're so obsessed with. sure he may have done well back 60 YEARS AGO but in my opinion the only people who deserve stars on the walk of fame are people who have lasting fame.
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coconn04 — 15 years ago(December 03, 2010 10:47 AM)
Here are some reviews to David's concert. This was a couple of weeks ago.
http://kool.radio.com/2010/11/20/photos-david-cassidy/#photo-1
http://www.wegoplaces.com/Event_301447.aspx
Here is David on 2 different occassion. You would think he would learn the words to a song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF1UQOBiPwA
Same song and he is still struggling to get through it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTwaCeITDQ
I am not the only person who is angry. This thing that you have about lasting fame. Have you been to this "walk of fame". YOu probably don't know most of the people. How do you know some young people like Christine Aguilera will have lasting fame?
David's lasting fame in mostly when he was 20 and was on the Patridge Family
Jack was more of a Broadway star. He appeared in 33 Broadway show and was one of the most nominated in history. HE won a Tony Award.
JAck's son Patrick just did the role his father played on Broadway in Texas and it might go to New York.
HE guest stars on a lot of TV. Here is one.
Reviews
This Columbo episode is probably noted more for the director, Steven Spielberg, as one of his early films.
It should be looked at for Jack Cassidy's role as the murderer who kills his partner in writing to maintain his lifestyle.
Jack Cassidy would appear in a later Columbos.
After all, Columbo meets his match in Jack Cassidy's character. He is a mystery writer who plots to perform the perfect murder.
After his first murder, his next victim would be the annoying general store owner/widow who would blackmail him for money. Rather than losing more money, he kills her. It is very entertaining to watch Cassidy and Falk .
Here is a youtube video trailer.
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joeeeeyyyyy53 — 15 years ago(December 03, 2010 12:35 PM)
doesnt matter nobody cares about broadway anymore and its sad that your writing these essays and doing all of this research for 2 guys who 50% of america has never heard of. 90% in the case of Jack. go spend your time elsewhere and stop replying to a pointless thread with stupid argument. i dont care if his shows are bad and hes a mess. all i said was that he and his son have a good relationship. done deal stop responding.
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lr_lmbrt — 15 years ago(March 12, 2011 01:31 PM)
I have read all the posts here about David Cassidy and, in reply to Cocoons reply to Rustyl reply David was not drunk or rude to his fans when I saw him three years ago at Hammersmith - I should know I was in the fifth row from the stage and as far as I could see he was having a joke with everyone who attended that concert and if he forgot words to certain songs it's because he's not sung them for years for instance he sang the song Sing Me from the Dreams album and he had to start the song about three times, the reason he didn't know the words was because the last time sang this song was when he recorded the song for the Dreams album and we're talking over thirty years earlier about '73 so naturally he's going to forget words to songs he's not sung for over thirty years. As for David lying about Jack well I would've thought that David would know what he's talking about after all Jack was his father, and Jack actually suffered from Bi-polar. I am due to see David in concert again in just over four weeks time and am looking forward to seeing him again in concert as are the people who have bought tickets for his birthday concert, I have also met the man and he was really kind and put me at my ease when I told him I was nervous as meeting him, he was very pleasant with everybody who queued up patiently to have their books signed by him. So Cocoon just shut up and unless you've met the man you don't know what he's like - I think personally you're one of the many people who put David down because you're just jealous of his talent just like Richard Hatch (or as I've started calling him hatchet man) has done on Celebrity Apprentice (thought I would spell it out because you might not know what CA stands for, you might thing is stands for California). Now I've said my piece lets see what you have to say in response - you remind me of some people on an online message board called C'mon Get Happy there were some people one there who didn't know what they were talking about and sometimes didn't get their facts straight either, so I suggest you get your facts straight before you start spouting your mouth off again about David.
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coconn04 — 15 years ago(March 14, 2011 12:30 AM)
I still don't know why David thinks people are jealous of him.
If you want to be an enabler and believe all the excuses, you can do that.
You can go on a lot of the other message board and they will all tell you how rude this guy is.
You might meet him one time and in that one moment he is anything you want him to be.
Beyond that, what you have is a bitter old man.