A hero? What the hell are you guys talking about?
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Breesus_Christ_Superstar
2000 — 16 years ago(May 18, 2009 12:02 PM)I don't think it's a case of liberals versus conservatives, but I think it's a sign of how watered-down our society has become.
We enjoy seeing celebrities gain weight and we make spectacles of figures like Darlene Cates, Susan Boyle, Tyra Banks, etc., because they can make us feel better about our own flaws.
This is "generation self-esteem" we're living in. Yes, everyone needs self-esteem, but today, people have taken extra heapings of it, and figure they don't need to change themselves at all. We can't call someone fat anymore, they are "Curvy" or "Curvaceous." I'm a size two but I consider myself curvy because I have round hips and breasts. But apparently that's not the definition of "curvy." Oh, and let's not forget all the crap we get about how "real women have curves." I agree that all body types are beautiful, but how effing insulting is it to be told that you're not a "real woman" because you can fit into tiny jeans?
People treat situations like Darlene's as if overweight people need constant praise and reassurance whereas thin people are immune to insults. You won't believe how many times people have told me "Tsk, eat a sandwhich already!" when I go out in a bikini (and I'm not even skin-and-bones). But would someone yell to an overweight woman "Just hop on a treadmill?" You'd say it behind their back, but not to their face.
There are plenty of women out there who are very sick from eating disorders and it is a very tragic and hard-to-understand thing, but at the same time it's wrong to accuse every small person of having an eating disorder, or worse, setting a bad example. Thin people are told they're setting a bad example just by walking out of their house (because apparently they're supposed to stay in hiding, like this "brave" woman did for so many years??) and yet we label someone like Tyra Banks - one of the most narcissistic beings to ever walk the Earth - a "hero" for "embracing" her "curves?"
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nihilistwonder — 15 years ago(May 12, 2010 08:57 PM)
Please do not characterize cancer as being preventable in all circumstances by personal action. Look at how many babies and young children get cancer what did THEY, or their PARENTS, do to bring this on? And how about non-smokers who get lung cancer (I've known a couple so far)?
Or otherwise healthy, slim women, and those who breast-fed all their babies for long periods, but came down with breast cancer (and reproductive cancers) anyway because, it turns out, the disease was in their family? Or men, 90% of whom will develop some form of prostate cancer if they live long enough, no matter what they do? Or those unwittingly exposed to various chemicals, radiation, and other probably unavoidable environmental factors later proven to be carcinogenic?
And what, pray tell, does anyone DO to get pancreatic cancer?
This is not in the same category as AIDS, which is clearly an infection that comes from very direct contact with blood and other bodily fluids, often from sexual activity and needle-sharing, against common-sense medical advice and often disapproved by society. Or obesity, a tendency to which may include hereditary factors and problems with brain and body systems, but also depends on willpower and self-control.
Perhaps the best thing is not to consider ANYONE a hero or heroine, even if they handle some unfortunate personal condition with grace. People shouldn't be rewarded for things they OUGHT to be doing anyway. Save the accolades for someone who actually goes out of his or her way to save SOMEONE ELSE. -
Nerdgasm — 13 years ago(August 13, 2012 06:34 AM)
Hey, Scamurra wtf are you talking about? Get y5b4our head out of your anus. Everything you say is ridiculously dumb.
admiring fat people isn't a liberal thing, considering the fattest states are conservative it's more likely ya'll
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Y-u-n-i-e — 17 years ago(March 29, 2009 08:52 AM)
yeah, she's no hero, not by a long shot, but seeing comments from people joking about how obese she is really pisses me off. nobody here knows her personally or the reasons for why she's so overweight. i mean, maybe she just eats alot. but usually when people are that fat, there's a proper reason behind it. anyway, she seems like a nice woman so just leave it and stop making cracks.
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fiatlux-1 — 15 years ago(September 23, 2010 06:45 PM)
I agree with the OP, and I'm overweight. Being fat doesn't make you a hero, and sorry to say but making movies while fat doesn't either. Leaving the house and risking people laughing is certainly a nerve-wracking thing, but its not heroic.
If she lost all that weight, that might be touching on brave. Losing weight (especially after that 20 pound mark) is NOT easy, and anyone over the age of 25 (and without a single health handicap) who says so just doesn't know what they're talking about.
I wish her the best. She had issues she needs to deal with that brought on the weight, same as me and most heavy people. Its easy to feel overwhelmed when facing a big weight loss necessity.
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heywatsup123 — 13 years ago(August 10, 2012 11:02 PM)
you people saying she isn't a hero don't really have anything to base that off of. lets try an exercise herehow many of you are currently drug addicts? raise your handokaythe OP has volunteered to raise their hand. perfect. now, youve struggled a long time with being a drug addictand you can't shake the addiction but you know in your heart and your mind that you want to better your life. here, listen to this person, who went thru the same thing you're going thru right now. listen to them talk about their journey. does that inspire you to put down the drugs and try and get better? i hope so. because listening to that ex-crackhead talk about how they had the personal, and emotional strength to better themselves and then feel so inspired to talk about their struggle to other people in hopes of saving some lives before they end up getting so messed up, sounds pretty heroic to me.
this woman is brave. and being brave, and working or even beginning to work thru life struggles and helping other people do it by inspiring them to kick their bad habits sounds pretty heroic to me. all you people saying she isn't heroic must have pictures of sports stars, and beyonce hanging on your walls and you call them heroes. they aren't and never will be. they're just over payed for being glamourous.
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rob-949 — 13 years ago(August 17, 2012 06:20 AM)
Wow. The blatant ignorance of all these people with perfect metabolisms who can't relate to this woman's struggle, day in and day out, is amazing. Amazing. You should all be so proud of yourselves. What a load of rotten, mean-spirited, ignorant people. And let me guess, you consider yourselves good Christians too, right? Evil, mean, and ignorant.5b4 Shame on you all.
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BeefStroganoff — 13 years ago(January 10, 2013 03:48 AM)
I'm sure most smart people talking about her being overweight is a bad thing are Atheists. Atheists are more scientific than Christians and they can tell that being obese isn't healthy - which is the truth.
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ValeriaMessalina — 12 years ago(March 10, 2014 07:45 AM)
My metabolism isn't the reason I cannot relate to obese people (well, those who are obese because of overeating, not due to pre-existing health issues). My metabolism is actually incredibly slow, I can easily put weight on (eat one doughnut, gain a pound, that's about me), and taking any weight off is a huge challenge. But I work with what I'm given by nature. If it means I cannot overindulge in fattie or sweet and high calorie foods, that's okay, because having a normal healthy life and being there for my family to help and support them is more important than stuffing my face. So yes, I have friends with high metabolism who can eat what they want, when they want, and however much they want, and I cannot, it might seem unfair, but it is what it is. If I wanted to sit there and pity myself and cry about low metabolism, I could, but then that would be a life not worth living. I can relate to the "struggle" of being a person who easily puts on weight, but I am also mature enough and caring enough to not let that take me away from the people I love or become a burden on them and ruin their lives.
BTW I'm an atheist, very much so. Then again I'm not about to start threads on an obese actress' imdb page about how she's obese, however, I felt an urge to reply to your comment because it seemed to blatantly miss the point.