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whoa whoa whoa. Malpractice? Come onyou said it was potentially deadly though, and that stuff is hard to find sometimes.

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      D-Hirschi — 20 years ago(April 11, 2005 12:36 PM)

      Okay, STOP IT!!! You certainly have absolutly no idea what you are talking about, pneumonia is not just one illness, but there can be hunderts of causes that lead to pneumonia. And pneumonia is one of the illnesses that causes more dead than you can imagine, it's not so harmless as you think it is, and obviously you also habe absolutly no idea about diagnosis. Even if you immediatly diagnose a pneumonia you still don't know what the cause of the pneumonia is. If it's bacterial inf16d0ection, the bacteri could still have resitance against antibiotics, if its a viral infection you can do nothing about it
      And something else: Sueing doctors for every step they make only leads to them being uncertain, which can easily delay treatment and lead to more dead But, it's not my problem, if you want to destroy your healthcare even more, just dont complain about it, when you need treatment.

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        jordybug2jee — 20 years ago(April 21, 2005 09:20 AM)

        the REAL STORY: Nicole passed away as a result of a double pneumonia complicated by asthma and sepsis. Normally it would take a older person far quicker than it did Nicole. She put up a fight, but the sepsis is a form of blood poisining that once takes hold is very difficult to combat.
        know your fact first.
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            jordybug2jee — 20 years ago(April 25, 2005 07:32 PM)

            Haha, i wasn't bitchin bout her death i just wanted to say what really happened.
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                jordybug2jee — 20 years ago(April 27, 2005 10:06 AM)

                Yes, it's really sad. people think Doctors should solve every problem they come across, that is not true at all though.
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                  Dannyboyo — 20 years ago(June 01, 2005 08:16 AM)

                  For those who think they know everthing there is to pneumonia but really don't (as that seems to be the case), go to any of the links that I would be posting shortly. For those who would like to learn more about pneumonia, you too could find the soon-to-be created links to be informative as well.
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia
                  http://my.webmd.com/hw/health_guide_atoz/hw63870.asp
                  Now there is another site. However it
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                  be a haggle to navigate since it isn't as precise as the first two. But here it is anyway.
                  http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/submenus/sub_pneumonia.htm
                  With that said, I would like to throw in my two cents. Yes, I think the first two hospitals should be sued. Along with whomever did the diagnosis of her condition
                  should
                  (even though most likely they won't) be charge with negligent homicide.
                  However, I also feel that the hospitals shouldn't be held accountable since most likely the possibility of the involoved hospitals were stretch to their limits with patients and probably were understaffed as well. Another possibility is that the hospitals was also underfunded.

                  Great. Another forum to waste my life on YEA!!

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                    Shan-12 — 20 years ago(September 02, 2005 06:23 AM)

                    I'm a doctor and it's impossible to say without more facts as to what happened but - if she's as sick as it sounds when she went to a hospital, along with respiratory symptoms - well she should have at least had a physical examination. This should have included listening to her chest with a stethescope. If the pneumonia was as widespread and extensive as it has been described (I'm 5b4thinking it must have been because it lead to her death), it would have made sounds been very obvious to anyone to heard it through a stethescope, doctor or not. (Doctors of course would then know how to interpret the finding).
                    That should have lead to an Xray which should have shown very obvious pneumonia and then she should have been started on intravenous antibiotics straight away. No guarantees but if this had been done at the very first visit to the first hospital - her chances would have been much better.
                    Like I said, there's no absolute guarantees and it's impossible to say without all the facts but - the description of events sounds like the first two hospitals didn't even listen to her chest because if the reports were accurate that they sent her home just with paracetamol and even basic examination we learn in medical school all the world over would have lead to further basic steps which I'm sure probably would have at least gotten a diagnosis.
                    If the pneumonia had been as extensive as described (once again I think so because she died) - you would have heard sounds (the medical term is crepitations) which will make you at least suspicious enough to order an X-ray - and that would have been very obvious and antibiotics should have followed soon after. I've seen several cases of much less severe cases where the chain of events was what I described and we found and treated it.
                    Of course I would111c be interested to find out more facts about the case before I could say what happened and should have happened with certainty but it was a tragic event nevertheless.

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                      EndorasBox — 17 years ago(October 27, 2008 01:52 AM)

                      If she was sick enough to die from it, she should've been in the hospital, no question. She also had asthma. I have asthma and had pneumonia and I recovered because I was given proper care. She should never have died from this.

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                        ryan-573 — 17 years ago(October 28, 2008 06:19 PM)

                        I agree she should have never died from this. Sad.
                        Of course, we're going to catch hell for reviving a years old thread now
                        Glad YOU recovered though. 🙂

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                          DreamGoddessLindsey — 17 years ago(November 13, 2008 10:40 PM)

                          Too bad we can't nail the doctors to bad thanks to the Republicans passing legislation to limit lawsuit amounts!
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